• Nepenthe@kbin.social
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    1 year ago

    Funnier that this has one single downvote from an account that’s otherwise never done anything ever. Like. What the fuck do you possibly have a problem with? Are you taking a moral stance against murder?

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      1 year ago

      Yea that was me, but I’m hoping more people fail to detect any wholesomeness here.

      Firstly, I’m not a fundamentalist who thinks murder is a justified reaction to a divorce.

      Maybe the marriage just somehow didn’t work out for them, that is sad and often the result of the super complex dynamics between two people, but it happens. Maybe the man was simply living an unhappy life in that marriage; oh, i know! lets fucking murder him, thats gonna be super wholesome! Or maybe your wholesome murdergranny hates him anyway cuz he is black? Yea, that must be it! Probably racist murdergranny always wanted to murder a black man, and now that she is basically dying, she can finally fulfill her wish in a super extremely wholesome way, yay 🥰

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        1 year ago

        Kinda weird to use two different accounts to chill in the same comments section, but only downvote it once and respond with the unrelated one. Especially since your account joined later and is visibly MUCH more active than the downvoting account.

        Idk, as unhinged as it would be for someone to take another person’s credit for being Online, my brain feels strangely like I need some confirmation for that. Go get your other account, or this is going to bother me for like a month.

        For everything else, I don’t…feel like I’m going to argue whether or not merc’ing someone is wrong. It used to be a last ditch way to deal with abusers when divorce wasn’t on the table, I know, so I would only be 20% shocked if she weren’t joking.

        There are people in my life that are much safer to society now that they’re dead, and it’s always nice to have someone recognize your feelings even if they’re just making the remark, so I don’t mind murder granny. It is possible to be both horribly immoral and also considerate.

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          Thanks for adding some context. To that I can only add that I would not have downvoted or criticized this post in a community for abuse victims. I just think it does not fit into a community dedicated to wholesomeness.

          Go get your other account, or this is going to bother me for like a month.

          I didn’t used any other account.

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      Why would this be wholesome? I’ve had a psychotic ex and a toxic bf theaten me before (the divorced husband swerved at my car, and a new bf threatened to drop by my house if she continued talking to me). The ex husband also appeared to be tracking his wife at one point when we went hiking, despite their breakup

      Why would any one think this is ok behavior, let alone something that is wholesome? In reality, if I saw anyone I knew posting something like this, I’d be posting it to police instantly.

      If I was the ex, I’d be worried she’d take things into her own hands eventually, so it’s definitely reportable. The fact the obviously crazy ex things it’s just fun and games is even worse

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        Something like what you went through would be highly traumatizing, and one of my parents experienced something similar themselves – the police weren’t going to care until a crime was committed (which would be…maybe too late?), and the guy trying to date her wouldn’t stop attempting to murder her bf until said bf climbed out of his totaled car with a gun. I’ve dealt with threats like that a couple times, myself, as well, and I wouldn’t intend to make light of it. I’m really not wanting the rest of this to sound like I’m brushing off what you mean.

        The offer of service comes off as a turn of phrase to me because it’s more often than not, in my personal experience, said in jest. “Your boss won’t stop calling you on your day off? Sibling being really annoying in the background? Do you want me to go over to their house and break their legs? I’ll break their legs for you.”

        8 times out of 10, the speaker is using deliberately hyperbolic humor to empathize with someone’s frustrations. Which is the thoughtful part. Part of me does wish, jokingly, that I could skin them alive and be done with it, thank you for noticing and agreeing that things are bullshit right now.

        Which means to me, personally, having a serious problem with it would, unfortunately, tend to come off like my grandpa going on a rant every time someone said “Kill two birds with one stone” because in his opinion it was “abusive to birds.” Technically it is, but it’s a turn of phrase. One whose words do not make me more likely to…go out and throw rocks at a pigeon.

        It would be very fair to question whether it’s the kind of joke one should really be making and whether doing so is linked to an increased propensity for violence. I would wager it is linked, but not by very much? I’m interested in this now, I need a research grant of some sort… Language is important.

        But nevertheless, there is nuance in the intent and the jokingly empathetic meaning seems to be the norm or most of the last two generations would routinely waste the FBI’s time.