Yeah, British people got played dirty. A lead of 3,78% is not a real mandate for such a strong move. There was so much propaganda out there - anyone remember the NHS bus? Does anyone remember how much Russian influence campaigns were going on even then? And how extreme the British media was?
Many residents of the UK were not allowed to vote, all EU citizens for example or younger people, and they are also massively affected. And now, 8 years on, many of the older voters have also died. So “well, you voted for this, get fucked by your own greedy elites” is not the best argument to solve this mess
While I generally agree with you, it is not up to us EUropeans to sort out this mess but up to the Brits.
They made a decision and if they do not like the results of said decision, they should have it again.
What propaganda targeted was British exceptionalism and that exceptionalism is ultimately what drove the Brexit movement. Do you think that has disappeared from Britain with the older voters? I wouldn’t say so. Whenever there are online discussions about UK rejoining the EU there are brits who don’t want to join as a “regular” member. They want to rejoin with some of the benefits they had before Brexit, they want special treatment. To me that says that British exceptionalism is still very much alive and kicking.
There is a simple way to solve the mess, it’s rejoining the EU. But Britain doesn’t want that so I think the “well, you voted for this, get fucked by your own greedy elites” (to put it in your words) still applies.
It’s no wonder Leave were so aggressive with shouting down calls for a second referendum after they won
It’s no wonder also that they made such a thing out of the will of the people. They knew full well that their margin was razor thin.
They knew as well that this razor thin margin was heavily weighted towards older people and that as each month passed (even if people couldn’t already see that Brexit was a shit show) that the majority was getting eaten away as younger people turned 18 and older people passed away.
Yeah, British people got played dirty. A lead of 3,78% is not a real mandate for such a strong move. There was so much propaganda out there - anyone remember the NHS bus? Does anyone remember how much Russian influence campaigns were going on even then? And how extreme the British media was?
Many residents of the UK were not allowed to vote, all EU citizens for example or younger people, and they are also massively affected. And now, 8 years on, many of the older voters have also died. So “well, you voted for this, get fucked by your own greedy elites” is not the best argument to solve this mess
While I generally agree with you, it is not up to us EUropeans to sort out this mess but up to the Brits. They made a decision and if they do not like the results of said decision, they should have it again.
What propaganda targeted was British exceptionalism and that exceptionalism is ultimately what drove the Brexit movement. Do you think that has disappeared from Britain with the older voters? I wouldn’t say so. Whenever there are online discussions about UK rejoining the EU there are brits who don’t want to join as a “regular” member. They want to rejoin with some of the benefits they had before Brexit, they want special treatment. To me that says that British exceptionalism is still very much alive and kicking.
There is a simple way to solve the mess, it’s rejoining the EU. But Britain doesn’t want that so I think the “well, you voted for this, get fucked by your own greedy elites” (to put it in your words) still applies.
Exactly. Thank you.
It’s no wonder Leave were so aggressive with shouting down calls for a second referendum after they won It’s no wonder also that they made such a thing out of the will of the people. They knew full well that their margin was razor thin.
They knew as well that this razor thin margin was heavily weighted towards older people and that as each month passed (even if people couldn’t already see that Brexit was a shit show) that the majority was getting eaten away as younger people turned 18 and older people passed away.