• @Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Technically feudalism is a separate system of resource extraction. Someone who owns the land basically just takes a percentage cut of your goods or earnings for being on their space and leaves you to do whatever you want as long as you survive .

      So arguably being something like a content creator on a platform or working for uber is closer to feudalism than capitalism.

      Capitalism is more the complicated system of landholders wanting to profit from selling, holding, leasing and developing land for profit as an investment good forcing people to perpetually earn to afford to live as individual family units.

      It’s a subtle distinction.

    • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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      -14 months ago

      Capitalism is supposed to put the worker at the top

      It doesn’t because the people with capital make decisions

      Christianity straight up opposes wealth, but it doesn’t play out that way because people with wealth make the decisions

      It’s the same for every system/ideology because a power vacuum will always be filled

      • @hark@lemmy.world
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        34 months ago

        Capitalism is supposed to put the worker at the top

        No it isn’t. It’s supposed to put capital at the top. It’s right in the name!

        • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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          14 months ago

          It’s supposed to take money away from the owning class (lords) and give it to the working class (craftsmen)

          The idea is that no matter what you do, you are paid based on hours put into it

      • @olivebranch@lemmy.ca
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        -14 months ago

        You are assuming someone always has to be in power over someone else. Historically most communities where run without anyone in charge, but with direct democracies. It just became harder with bigger cities, because it was harder to communicate with everyone else. Perhaps we can change that with the Internet.

        • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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          4 months ago

          Historically you are incorrect

          If you don’t put power over someone else then someone comes in and puts it over you

          The vehicle for change was just how easily that other person can get to you

          You can go back to bronze age kings to demonstrate how what you said was false in all of recorded history

          • @olivebranch@lemmy.ca
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            -14 months ago

            There is a good yt channel talking about egalitarian societies in prehistory called What is Politics

            • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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              14 months ago

              If you want to go far enough back that we use theory

              Then we can say prehistoric nomadic humans still had fights with other clans and territorial disputes because our genetic ancestors (chimps/monkeys/apes) also have those

              And if you were there with a gun, would you be able to dominate them? If so then you are able to put power over people without a power structure

              • @olivebranch@lemmy.ca
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                03 months ago

                Territorial disputes where only common after agriculture in humans, because territory wasn’t as important before as mutual aid.

                • @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
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                  13 months ago

                  You can point to territorial disputes between non-agrarian humans to suggest otherwise

                  Hunting grounds and shelter were more important than mutual aid

                  You don’t even need to use humans, you can use other primates

                  • @olivebranch@lemmy.ca
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                    03 months ago

                    it is not just farming land that is valuable, sometimes there are good fishing spots and etc in scarce regions. However those are far rarer situations and usually there is plenty of food for everyone, but hard times also happen and then most animals and humans practice mutual aid. There is a good book about it, by Kropotkin, called Mutual aid. It isn’t long, I listened to the audio book.