Oh yes, the people who had surgery and regretted it and are now forced to live with the side effects, please tell me more about how no other surgery but gender affirming care has risks and side effects. Ridiculous.
I was BARELY paraphrasing your story about how antisocial people should just be made to socialise and be more normal instead of letting them be antisocial. That’s HARDLY the strawman you make it out to be. I also love how you get all up in a tizzy about barely being misquoted then do the same thing to me in your post.
Your incorrect use of the word “reinforcement” in this context has been corrected by others so at this point I can see you’re simply incapable of learning and improving yourself.
As for your claim to being “sick of people… fail[ing] to see [trans] people need fucking help”, if you really cared to help trans people you’d know that every reputable long term study of mental health from gender dysphoria shows the best long term outcome is from gender affirming care. Not from the neo-conversion therapy type approaches you’re clamering for. THAT’s why gender affirming care is now MEDICINE, and not forcing them to forget about being trans and just be normal or in your words move away from their dysmorphic view. Gender affirming care doesn’t mean surgery, it means letting them live how they want, and present themselves how they feel. This would have been the natural state of society of we didn’t have such rigid Christian gender norms. Certainly everyone else presents themselves how they feel. We know of several societies past and present where gender divergence was widely accepted with no issues so this isn’t even a new concept, it’s just letting the Christian cultural hegemony die.
Thanks for confirming my statement that you losers can’t keep politics out of this and that you’re more interested in keeping your protected, victimized class of people than getting sick people actual help. So much so you’d rather enable mental disorders than seek actual treatment to make them comfortable in the bodies they have rather than change their bodies to suit the disorder.
You’re a fucking monster, no different from the Christians with their shock therapy.
“gender affirming care is supported by science as providing the best life outcomes for people with gender dysphoria”
“You’re a monster, the real solution is clearly my idea because it matches my view of culture and reality regardless of what science and studies say”
And of course I’m the one “making this political”
I applaud your logic and reason sir.
PS shock therapy is now scientifically supported as a treatment for treatment resistant depression with excellent short and long term prognosis, so in the end you got one thing right: when used as prescribed by medical professionals gender affirming care and shock therapy are effective treatments for gender dysphoria and depression respectively. You didn’t intend to be right, but I suppose that’s the only way you end up on the correct side of any discussion.
PPS I missed the best irony in your comment. Christians used shock therapy as a dubious scientifically unsound treatment to stop gays from being who they are and go back to accepting their “normal” sexuality. And you’re trying to advocate for dubious scientifically unsound treatments to stop trans people from being who they are and go back to accepting their “normal” gender identity. Truly a gift of a comment!!
Oh yes, the people who had surgery and regretted it and are now forced to live with the side effects, please tell me more about how no other surgery but gender affirming care has risks and side effects. Ridiculous.
I was BARELY paraphrasing your story about how antisocial people should just be made to socialise and be more normal instead of letting them be antisocial. That’s HARDLY the strawman you make it out to be. I also love how you get all up in a tizzy about barely being misquoted then do the same thing to me in your post.
Your incorrect use of the word “reinforcement” in this context has been corrected by others so at this point I can see you’re simply incapable of learning and improving yourself.
As for your claim to being “sick of people… fail[ing] to see [trans] people need fucking help”, if you really cared to help trans people you’d know that every reputable long term study of mental health from gender dysphoria shows the best long term outcome is from gender affirming care. Not from the neo-conversion therapy type approaches you’re clamering for. THAT’s why gender affirming care is now MEDICINE, and not forcing them to forget about being trans and just be normal or in your words move away from their dysmorphic view. Gender affirming care doesn’t mean surgery, it means letting them live how they want, and present themselves how they feel. This would have been the natural state of society of we didn’t have such rigid Christian gender norms. Certainly everyone else presents themselves how they feel. We know of several societies past and present where gender divergence was widely accepted with no issues so this isn’t even a new concept, it’s just letting the Christian cultural hegemony die.
Thanks for confirming my statement that you losers can’t keep politics out of this and that you’re more interested in keeping your protected, victimized class of people than getting sick people actual help. So much so you’d rather enable mental disorders than seek actual treatment to make them comfortable in the bodies they have rather than change their bodies to suit the disorder.
You’re a fucking monster, no different from the Christians with their shock therapy.
“gender affirming care is supported by science as providing the best life outcomes for people with gender dysphoria”
“You’re a monster, the real solution is clearly my idea because it matches my view of culture and reality regardless of what science and studies say”
And of course I’m the one “making this political”
I applaud your logic and reason sir.
PS shock therapy is now scientifically supported as a treatment for treatment resistant depression with excellent short and long term prognosis, so in the end you got one thing right: when used as prescribed by medical professionals gender affirming care and shock therapy are effective treatments for gender dysphoria and depression respectively. You didn’t intend to be right, but I suppose that’s the only way you end up on the correct side of any discussion.
PPS I missed the best irony in your comment. Christians used shock therapy as a dubious scientifically unsound treatment to stop gays from being who they are and go back to accepting their “normal” sexuality. And you’re trying to advocate for dubious scientifically unsound treatments to stop trans people from being who they are and go back to accepting their “normal” gender identity. Truly a gift of a comment!!