• ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    I also responded, “So, you are saying that property rights have priority over human rights?”

    In this vein, I enter another definition of “trespassing” as “an unlawful act committed on the person, property, or rights of another.”

    When university presidents and chancellors call in campus or municipal police officers to dismantle peaceful tent encampments and arrest demonstrators, they commit trespass against “the person” and their First Amendment right to “freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    Not quite at the Sovereign Citizen level of legal misunderstand but getting there…

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    4 months ago

    Trespassing outside of people’s immediate dwelling spaces shouldn’t be illegal at all. It’s just a tool for the wealthy to control the rest of us and where we can exist on our common planet.

  • Cornpop@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Fuck Israel and all but this is such a stupid take on property rights.

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    5 months ago

    This reads like something a Sovereign citizen would write.

    The first amendment allows you to say whatever you want without threat of arrest, but it doesn’t give carte blanche to do whatever you want whilst saying it.

    If you’re on private property after closing time to the public, then you’re trespassing, regardless of why you’re there.

    The threat of arrest is something you have to accept if you’re going to protest in a disruptive way - the ones you’re protesting against will do anything they legally can to get you to stop.

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      5 months ago

      Minor point… at any time a property owner or an agent thereof can ask you to leave and your trespassing at that point.

      As far as civil liberties, the reasons can’t be that you’re a protected class. But that’s about it. Generally, it’s really hard to prove that the rules are being unfairly applied to begin with, and then there are a lot of ways around that. it’s really hard to prove racism for some of those ways (“suspicious”=hoodie, for example.)

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    5 months ago

    Where in the first amendment does it say you have a right to a tent encampment, I must have missed that part.

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      4 months ago

      You’re right, I forgot that the constitution is the basis of all moral reasoning and we can’t make any arguments that don’t stem from it.

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        4 months ago

        Nope I didn’t say anything about moral reasoning, you’re the one talking about that for whatever reason. I’m talking about the law, since the article is claiming the students have a first amendment right to their encampment.

  • Edwardthefma99✡@lemmy.world
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    Sorry but its trespass to be there after hours its trespass to assume control of a public space its public for a reason its there for everyone if your going to protest do it correctly when the place is open when it comes to closing time pack up and go to your hotel room then show up during the day don’t try to take control of any space and respect others and there religious beliefs

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          4 months ago

          Who told you the protesters were harassing Jewish people? Because a lot of the protestors are Jewish. Unless you consider the provocateurs attacking the jewish protestors?

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Just wondering, when people were driving through BLM protesters, were you like “stay out of the street and you won’t get run over”?

      • Edwardthefma99✡@lemmy.world
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        Dude look at the evadence most blm protests were extremely violent with damages in the millions also deadlyforce can be met with deadly force if a mob of people decend upon you with obvious intent to cause bodly harm you can do what ever is needed to defend yourself