I can’t sleep if I drink it too late

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        They weren’t responding to curing ADHD with water. They’re responding to the title, asking what they can drink to avoid caffeine.

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            Look I dunno. Title didn’t say they were using it to self-medicate! I take prescription drugs for my ADHD. If caffeine helped I’d probably do that too.

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      I use Ephedrine (Primatine, Bronkaid) for my ADHD and it works pretty well. Both are over the counter, just require an ID

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      What this pic from? Also this is me everyday. I joined this community to get info for my son who is adhd but then I end up relating to a lot of the stuff on here. Maybe I am this…

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        Miss Kobayshi’s Dragon Maid

        Yeah, often one parent has some light symptoms already too. That was a blow for my dad back then.

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          Thank you and I’m not surprised I was told I was ADA when I was a kid, but it was during that time when they said all kids were so they could all get us on Ritalin.

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    Well 700mg is extremely high for me personally I only need 120-200 MG that lasts me about 5-6 hours and i take a melatonin for sleep or do some exercise which helps alot. But each person is different sounds like you need a sabbatical so lower dosages help you

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      rest?? what do you mean vacation? I just need a larger stick to hit myself. It worked so far, it will work again!

      No, I’m not stubborn, you don’t understand, by hurting myself I’m actually supporting heart transplant industry, therefore enacting systemic change


      sorry, I think some of the suggestions in this topic worked too well

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        One of my friends used to drink 2-3 monsters a day and now can’t drink any caffeine or alcohol because it messed up his heart.

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      Melatonin helps me sleep the first four or so hours, then Zyrtec helps with the last four. You can take the Zyrtec any time since it’s a 24 hrs pill, but I try to take mine around bedtime. They don’t make me groggy or anything during the day, and they even help with mosquito bites!

      Edit: Also Costco sells a year’s supply for the cost everyone else sells a month’s worth.

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        Melatonin only helps me sleep within a 45 minute windows which can be ignored. Zyrtec does nothing to me only benadryl and alcohol. Have a sleepy effect for me.

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    Try herbal teas? Main idea would be to lower the dosage but still intake some caffeine so your brain won’t protest too much. Plus you can transition from teas to regular water pretty easily after.

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    Kratom is stimulating but not as much of a harsh stimulation IMO. A close friend of mine has ADHD, and he has repeatedly expressed how grateful he is that I introduced him to kratom. He gets a lot of side effects from Vivance (and the others) that kratom helps smooth out.

    I am not sure if I truly have a mild form of ADHD or if I just share some of the symptoms, but I generally find it easier to concentrate when I have some kratom in my system. All of my close friends are neurodivergent, and I suspect there’s a reason why.

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      Damn Lemmy is wild, we’re just out here casually recommending kratom.

      I’m glad it’s working for you, but also we have no long term studies about refined kratom (and yes, it is refined, unless you’re out there eating the diet and chewing the m. speciosa leaf of the indigenous South East Asian tribes this practice originates from). I’ve had several classmates who replaced their Adderall addiction with kratom, and the side effects were nasty as hell, one of them even has permanent liver damage because of it.

      Sorry to be a fed, but I recommend anyone who wants to try kratom to really look into dosages and usage time beyond a cursory Google search and what random people (including me) say on social media before committing.

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        Regular kratom leaf is so mild. Coffee is way more addictive. I’ve quit kratom cold turkey each time I’ve taken a tolerance break and had no issues. I cannot quit caffeine cold turkey.

        I’m not recommending gas station kratom extract shots. Dry, ground leaf is what I take. OP asked for something other than caffeine which isn’t exactly healthy in the amounts the meme describes.

        Was your roommate using the liquid shots? I feel like you’ve gotten some bad information regarding what kratom is and isn’t. I assume you’ve never tried it. Is that correct?

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          Was your roommate using the liquid shots? I feel like you’ve gotten some bad information regarding what kratom is and isn’t. I assume you’ve never tried it. Is that correct?

          It’s pretty bold of you to assume I have no idea what I’m talking about because I haven’t done kratom, and then implying I’m misinformed when I specifically said that anyone interested should do a deep dive on their own and not off random Lemmy comments.

          I hate doing calls to authority, but 1) it was several classmates, not my roommate (?), and 2) I’m a former biochemist who specifically has worked on drug and substance interactions within different genetic populations, and I have seen firsthand the opiate-like withdrawal symptoms that AuDHD study participants have gone through at even lower dosages of kratom due to a variety of factors such as body weight, diet, genetic makeup, alcohol use, and being on the spectrum.

          Like I said previously, it’s great that it works for you and your friend, but you cannot blanket guarantee it’ll be the same outcome for everyone else, especially if we’re accounting for the variance than can occur in AuDHD brain structures. This isn’t shit you casually recommend like a brand of multivitamins.