Article by Advocate about another aging rock star, in this case Alice Cooper, being an intolerable bigot who lost touch with a world that is progressing beyond his limited imagination
“I’m understanding that there are cases of transgender, but I’m afraid that it’s also a fad, and I’m afraid there’s a lot of people claiming to be this just because they want to be that,” he replied. “I find it wrong when you’ve got a six-year-old kid who has no idea. He just wants to play, and you’re confusing him telling him, ‘Yeah, you’re a boy, but you could be a girl if you want to be.’”
“Well, I can see somebody really taking advantage of this, though,” he said. “A guy can walk into a woman’s bathroom at any time and just say, ‘I just feel like I’m a woman today’ and have the time of his life in there, and he’s not in the least bit… He’s just taking advantage of that situation. Well, that’s going to happen. Somebody’s going to get raped, and the guy’s going to say, ‘Well, I felt like a girl that day, and then I felt like a guy.’ Where do you draw this line?”
So basically just regurgitating the same tired, talking points and offering zero thoughts of his own.
These points are so incredibly dumb.
time of his life in there
What? How? What do you think goes on in the women’s restrooms?
Somebody’s going to get raped
Rapists, well known for how well they abide by laws and social norms, are gonna magically be stopped by a sign that has a little symbol of a woman…
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Time of his life in there?? 🤣🤣 Dude needs to check out a woman’s bathroom just once. Wtf is he imagining?
Don’t you know? There’s an exclusive pizza party in the women’s bathroom on every Friday and Wednesday.
And everyone probably has their boobs out!
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Nah, he doesn’t get a pass. My dad is older than he is, and he’s not a transphobe. It’s not like being trans is so confusing. It can literally be understood within seconds.
I don’t see why you want to go out of your way to give Alice Cooper a pass, either. He’s known for being a conservative Christian, and it’s very likely that being a bigot fits right into his overall system of beliefs vs. just having one bad take. He’s not a good person. He’s a polite person to his fans by all accounts, but he’s not a good person overall.
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You’re falling into the trap of people who interpret any criticism as “outrage,” as if those of us who correctly identify harmful bigotry are somehow unhinged and in a constant state of outrage. The use of such terminology (“outrage, virtue signaling, echo chamber” et al) is used to deflect attention from the real issue and make it seem like those of us who are (again, accurately) pointing out that these blatantly bigoted beliefs are inexcusable are the real problem – “both sides bad.” Whether this is intentional on your part or not, I would urge you to do better.
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If you really believe what you’re saying, then yes, you are. I think deep down inside you know that Alice Cooper is a raging piece of shit. Like I said, it fits right in with his entire bigoted worldview.
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It’s a fallacy to think that just because I’m wasting time on Lemmy on a Sunday morning that I’m not doing anything meaningful. I literally work for a charitable non-profit that does praxis, and I often meet with local officials to try to make my community a better place.
We are not the people you see in our comments. Personally, I find it cathartic to dunk on bigots, so I will continue to do so, but thanks for the advice?
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Yeah, those talking points are just fucking moronic. A guy raping someone in a women’s bathroom isn’t suddenly going to be legal or even protected just because they claim to be a woman, neither would be a trans woman assaulting a cis woman. And there’s also not some magical barrier preventing a rapist to enter women’s bathrooms either. There’s a lot of similarly stupid logic that we could apply to old granpas wearing makeup.
It’s a talking point for people who want to go into bathrooms to rape. It’s their fantasy that they are telling on themselves about. It’s pretty much just boomers. Free love didn’t work because it still requires consent, and that frustration has led them to saying that anyone can just take it, because that’s what they want. It’s gross. Most of that generation is gross.
OMG it really is. I grew up in the 80s with boomer parents and all the now infamous boomer humor was everywhere. It was gross and weird and r—y and I hate it. A generation of grabby entitled weirdos.
Plus, transphobes want people to use their assigned-at-birth gender’s bathroom, which just means trans men (who actually do look like men) would use womens’ bathrooms, which invalidates their other bathroom related points. Of course, we all know that half of them constantly forget trans men exist and the other half want trans people to straight up not exist anymore.
Where do you draw this line?
The line is arbitrary and society isn’t going to collapse if we get rid of it. I bet he knows 0 non binary people and it doesn’t affect him in any way.
Woaw that had no substance whatsoever.
Wow. What a dumb shit.
I’m understanding that there are cases of transgender
Can I have a 24 pack?
it seems like every week there’s another article about an older celebrity that “doesn’t get it” about the modern age…
Which is crazy. My 87 year old grandmother has and has had no issue at all accepting everyone for who they are. That woman won’t even have to think about it. You could tell her you were trans and she would say “that is excellent, we must go shopping now!” and that’d be the end of it. She shows every day how easy it is to just accept people. Just like her mom. So yeah, sorry to ramble, but these folks gotta quit using age as an excuse.
EDIT: this is even more on point, because my grandmother is a HUGE Alice Cooper fan. I will not be sharing this news with her, cause it’d break her heart.
That - unfortunately - is my impression too. Currently we see the “great reshuffling” as celebs dare to openly admit to their bigotry.
Ah yes the glory of being one of the most targeted minorities.
A good half of the world either kill or jail trans people.
Well that’s disappointing :(
This isn’t surprising if you’ve been keeping track of his opinions at all over the past few decades. He’s been a far right wing religious hack for years. Him openly stating he’s a bigot shouldn’t really be a shock to anyone.
Being a rockstar seems to be a fad as well.
The last time he had a somewhat hit record was in 1991 at 53 years old. He’s 75 now.
I’d say Alice Cooper is less than a fad at this point.
I believe you mean 43 not 53. The 90s are further back in time :(
