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    Honestly, that’s fine - Lemmy is now a known alternative and best of all, has time to grow more naturally and be better situated for the next eventual migration (I’m a Reddit migrant myself).

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    Both suck.

    Reddit has the base and the niche communities and the activity, but is scummy for its own reasons.

    Lemmy has the structure/organization but none of the niche interest activity that kept me on Reddit for so long. Plus it’s got all the weird pro china shit and an even worse problem with the hive mind bullshit than Reddit.

    With the death of third party apps, I would say that my time that was formerly spent on Reddit is now spent 10% still on Reddit, 15-20% on Lemmy, and the rest just isn’t spent on that sort of thing anymore.

    I’ve been reading more, maybe a 2-5% increase on Facebook of all places, going to the source for news (Axios, Washington Post mostly), gaming with the computer time, maybe a 15% increase on YouTube time…started streaming more shows and stuff, and spent more time outside, even in the sweltering summer heat.

    So basically for me, Lemmy has turned out to not be a reddit replacement, and instead that time has just been split up many different ways.

    I do miss Reddit, and wish that Lemmy had indeed been a workable alternative, but it’s just not. I won’t go back to Reddit because I accessed it 95% on a mobile 3rd party app…but just because I won’t go back doesn’t mean that Lemmy is just as good.

    As time goes on, I’m starting to realize that the time I still spend here is mostly because I want it to be better and I’m trying to be active long enough to see that change happen…but the longer I just kill time here waiting for it, the more I see shit I don’t like.

    I would expect that while I’ll still keep my account open, I’ll probably be done with Lemmy by the end of the year.

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        And that a sizable portion of that small user base are batshit extremists

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        Agreed. I see a lot of the same names around various different subs. My only complaint is the sports subs have a lot fewer folks and thus less engagement on GDTs but otherwise everyone seems to be more real and less toxic as a community, hopefully that vibe stays as the numbers grow.

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      I just see too much of the same posts and I’m not sure if it’s a user issue or not sometimes i reopen the front page after 3 days and 25% of the posts I’ve already seen plus a lot of posts are about reddit anyway :(

      6/10

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        Thing is that is a fixable problem. It’s technologically very possible to set up a simple algorithm to try to get like 3-5 posts max from one community, have them be as recent as possible, and return the most popular ones.

        Reddit has a problem that is rooted much more deeply; their CEO.

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          I think this is unironically a big problem with Lemmy. The sorting is way, way, way too fixed and inflexible. You can sort by active which ends up being the same few communities. Hot is too much like it’s kinda new. Top Day is usually what I use since I want to see the most popular posts first each day, but then more niche content is just hidden.

          There is no best sorting order, because the best sorting order would be a combination of multiple sorting orders. This is one thing reddit really excels at with their sorting orders, they seem to have like a “combined” approach, like an intelligently-designed system of sorting algorithms to show people good, active content while not hiding important things.

          On a community/platform like Lemmy where it’s less popular and less active, having proper sorting is even more important.

          Like you said though, this is entirely fixable, and something Lemmy definitely can improve. The question is, will they improve it? I certainly hope so.

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            I feel like this is where 3rd party clients can really shine. Offer a good default algorithmic sort, and let users configure it themselves as much as they please – it’s their feed after all.

            I’d do it myself if I didn’t have enough work on my plate already lol.

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              That’s true but this is the kind of thing where it’s important enough that it shouldn’t require a third party client, it should just work on the main website itself.

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      This is basically me, but reverse the lemmy and reddit percentages. I’m halfway through the Vampire: The Masquerade Clan Novel series 🤘

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      I commented that China’s state sponsored hacking probably contributed to their new processor looking surprisingly like competitors’. The responses… were disappointing. The China thing and stale content have been my only issues. Stale posts are a problem, but has meant that I’m done earlier and put my phone away sooner, which isn’t great for engagement, but makes me feel better.

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      I mean we can build niche comtent, just going to take a lot of time. For now lemmy is refreshing because most are here toconverse on topics and not 100s of trolls like

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      It’s wild how digitally lost I’ve been since I left reddit. And they deleted one of my favorite subs so there is no going back…

      It’s funny you mention Facebook. I deleted mine years ago, without grabbing all the photos I had, which I regret big time.

      I had hundreds of folks I knew in real life on there, and I’ve considered going back a lot in the last few weeks.

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    The lack of niche communities is one thing, but the real long term drag is the fact that most of this place is just c/Linux or c/linuxmemes even if it’s just c/memes or literally any community.

    Can’t go anywhere without some “Microsoft bad, Chromium bad” content or comments clogging everything up. Keep that shit in the places it belongs or you’re going to see more people abandon the site as they realize it’s all just the same people with the same three interests in every place.

    That and it really feels like the worst of reddit came here, I’ve seen people get downvoted to hell over obvious misinterpretation of their comments by people who have almost zero reading comprehension skills.

    Lemmy needs to fix its shit.

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      It’s also why so many of the memes are boomer memes. I’m sorry, but a lot of the Linux userbase are 40+. I’m close to that myself, so I’m not criticizing or saying millennials shouldn’t be welcome, I’m just saying we also need an infusion of younger people here to keep things fresh and make sure the stale stuff gets tossed into the garbage where it belongs.

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        Oh there’s plenty of kids, who else would be legitimately convinced that the USSR was a good place? Lol

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          …will I get called a nutjob if I say intentionally nefarious agents possibly aligned with certain governments and institutions?

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            I mean it’s possible, but we don’t have the population to really support the effort IMO. That kind of stuff usually sticks to the places it can get the most eyeballs and the quarter of a million lemmy users ain’t the place.

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              I think you’re underestimated how widespread, advanced, and insidious those efforts are, tbh

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                I think you believe lemmy is larger and more important than it is.

                There’s a reason everyday people don’t get hacked, because bad actors aren’t seeking out bill and his $1740 bank account, they’re going after Microsoft or coca cola.

                Russian bots? Sure. On reddit. With millions of people. Not lemmy with like 15 comments and a few hundred upvotes.

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        Oh I understand why but as someone who uses Linux and doesn’t really put any data into social media, it’s fucking exhausting to constantly have people act like they understand the one extra little key thing that’ll save you from the government or private entities. Most of them just regurgitating random bullshit they hear and don’t know a fucking thing about.

        Oh you gotta have a DNS pihole, you gotta have Linux on everything or you like sucking Gate’s dick, no not that distro! Arch/Debian/Mint! Why do you need tab stacking/side bars/whatever else Firefox doesn’t have? Chromium based browsers bad!

        It’s clear why people hate Linux users, they’re insufferable. Truly the vegans of the internet.

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      So many tankies, and an unhealty obsession with foss and anything foss related (if you don’t live off the land, you’re part of the problem yadda yadda).

      Disc: I love linux, Firefox, etc and use them everyday (but also use chrome, amazon, etc), but ffs stop the preaching and shaming.

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      Yeah it’s hard to replace reddit and lemmy is by far the best. Just needs time to mature.

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      where did you find over moderation? I have been over here for a while now and never found over moderation. Admittedly I am not active in any communities other than asklemmy and linux.

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      Ehhh if you have a serious question or a problem about some niche thing, and no one here can answer it, you’re just wasting your time. I had an issue with a tool I have, but I couldn’t find a community that it made sense to ask about it in. I’m not going to start a community for every sub I had subbed on reddit.

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          Same. I like having alternatives. And now that Sync for Lemmy is up and running I only hit reddit very occasionally for various niche things I like.

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          I forgot to add that no one answered my question. LOL I’m not sure if I’m banned or if it was just so far out there, no one knew the answer. Or maybe the community is dead, I didn’t look closely to see if other posts had responses or not, but if it was, I assume they’d be here somewhere.

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    It’s a bit disappointing that most of the communities for specific content are so inactive on here, but I still prefer it to the types of banal, waste-of-time, repetitive content and comments that plague reddit and have caused my eyes to roll in a tailspin.

    Do I really have to choose one or the other, though?

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      I think there’s a sweet spot in terms of population lemmy hasn’t reached yet. Reddit has surpassed it long ago and is now shit due to too many people.

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    It’s good for me, keeps me online for about an hour before I go out and get an irl life

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    I am just never going back, lemmy has less content of course but the comments on what is here is just a totally different level, reddit just feels dirty and corrupt in comparison,

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    I’m really trying to be positive, guys. I’m daily driving Lemmy, watching all the content here. I’ve only logged to reddit once thinking “at least old.reddit.com works”, and it does, but after clicking on posts it goes back to new so I said “screw it” and I’m sticking with Lemmy for now. But all communities I’ve followed on Reddit are either small, non-existent, or just bots reposting Reddit posts. I know about this site, and I’m guessing a lot of you too, by googling “reddit alternative”. Hate on Reddit will only get you so far. Maybe I’m wrong here, but in my opinion main problem of Lemmy is a lack of reach. I like Lemmy and I’ll definitely stick with it, but I don’t think it will be as big as reddit. Lemmy needs something that would make people go to it, and “it’s not reddit” is not enough.

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    The only reason I left is removal of third party apps. The more Lemmy users shit on the rest of it the more likely I am to return occasionally on desktop cause it makes me think people here dont want the same things I want, or actually have problems with the things I want.

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      I check out reddit every few days and tbh lemmy has the same amount of mainstream content. The only difference is that reddit niche subs are more active.

      I think the fact that anyone can make the same community on a new instance diminishes niche communities more. If I pick a game on reddit ill find 2 or so instances with lots of use. On lemmy there will be 10 communities all mostly abandoned.

      You can feel a difference on reddit though. Quality content and content numbers are greatly reduced from even a month ago.

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      Totally. I can only see it improving from here. It’s clear there are tons of committed users, one’s that will continue posting for years to come.

      I am one of them.