When Google sabotages network neutrality by blocking Tor and Invidious instances, is it wise for the fedi to facilitate the sharing of #Youtube links?

Fedi instance operators would probably not tolerate links into Facebook’s walled-garden if people were to start polluting an otherwise open community with them. So Youtube links should probably be treated with contempt during periods where Google’s DoS attack is underway.

  • Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io
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    5 days ago

    I’m commenting to follow this discussion. I’ve used invidious, and freetube for years to avoid being tracked by yt. But that strategy doesn’t work as well as it used to. How shall we proceed?

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      4 days ago

      If they succeed in fully blocking mitigations, then I will simply drop youtube (and the content it holds hostage) from my life. I’ve done this with other proprietary abusers.

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      5 days ago

      i’m downvoting everything youtube with few exceptions for rare important things. decades ago i had a youtube channel, but it soon became embarrassing among all this clickbait.

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        4 days ago

        Down-voting every youtube link is indeed the only individual action that can be taken in the current system. It could theoretically lead to a YT link being folded or sunk lower. Tricky though because people should know why their YT links get down-voted. Ideally you would be able to tell them in a response. But I think I know how that would go: people with digital inclusion principles have actually become a diluted small minority in the fedi. A flood of lemmy.world folks who would follow the crowd off a cliff would down-vote your reply and up-vote the YT link in solidarity of their favorite walled gardens.

        You could DM the reason for down-voting. But then the problem does not get the exposure it needs.

        The fedi has evolved like Burning Man. The movement was true to its founding principles early on but as the crowd grew over the years it became enshittified faster than a digital rights subculture could take hold.

        BTW, I should mention that sh.itjust.works is also a centralised Cloudflare node.

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          other nodes shut down within a few weeks after i registered. also i think it depends how people use cloudflare and why. it offers a lot of settings and if someone gets DDOSed from russia or china all the time, cloudflare can help them.