Seriously, though. In my opinion, V is by far the worst TOS film, if not the worst of any Star Trek film (Yes, including Kelvin), yet it somehow nailed the ending.
Not to say I hated V that much. I think there’s some charm of Kirk, Spock, and Bones breaking out the brig, but the plot is catastrophically bad. I was also annoyed with that one scene with Uhura where they have her seduce some acolytes, which I feel is a disgrace to the character.
I don’t get how people can dislike these movies but then be fine with things like Discovery, Enterprise, or even worse, Picard.
At least this movie didn’t have weird sibling sex or pro-slavery comments or rape scenes.
I actually prefer TNG’s settling down with a Poker game, and Picard joining in with a “I didn’t know why I didn’t do this before”. Mainly because it still feels like they’ve not left their time, whereas the camping scene could be anytime from the start of the second millennium.
The only way it could be better is if the show opened with a Poker game.
Ah crap. You win.
It does show how dystopian Star Trek kinda is tho. Nobody consumes any media composed after around 1900.
Apparently copyright destroyed art and it’s no longer able to be created, except what was already in the public domain starting around 1960’s.
Pretty sure the Beastie Boys are post 1900: https://youtu.be/5PaUTnk9k9Y
Actually, there are several post-1900 copyrighted works mentioned in Star Trek.
Tom likes early 20th century B Sci Fi. Kirk and Spock reference authors who released work after the 60s in IV when discussing colorful metaphors. Hotel Royale is not a good example, but definitely counts.
Truth be told, I think copyright is a double-edged sword. On one hand, businesses have used it to gatekeep, leading to intellectual stagnation, as you seem to imply. However, at the same time, copyright is often the only legal framework defending small artists against those same businesses (I’ll concede not that well, but still.).
Those are all good counterpoints.
That all said I do love how in everyone’s free time they’re all growing and relaxing in healthy ways like sports, painting, learning an instrument or putting on a play.
What episode is this from? I’m totally blanking. Something Tom set up on the holodeck?
It’s the episode where Tuvok turns out to be a triple agent for the Maquis, but only because he was brainwashed by a religious extremist.
With out star trek v I wouldn’t have my favorite quote for use at work. “Share your pain.”
In the words of Greg DeMayo, “If every pork chop were perfect, we wouldn’t have hot dogs.”
Agreed on all points. I think this movie is awful but with some standout character moments.
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I always loved the end of Star Trek VI. Specifically, the signatures and the music. I know it’s technically not a scene, but it was a darn good send-off and ending.
I always loved the end of Star Trek VI.
the last scene just as the view screen w sulu and the excelsior crew shut off and the camera switches the enterprise crew at their stations plus the empty station that sulu would have been in if he were still on the enterprise does it for me and when kirk orders “second star to the right and straight on 'till morning” gives me goosebumps every single time.
Honestly, there were weird things about that film, but I think you can’t go wrong with Kirk and Bones breaking out of a Klingon prison while Spock, Uhura, Chekov, and Sulu all say “to heck with protocol!”
