I’ve read The Guardian article about the situation, and what stuck out to me was this:
The US president, Joe Biden, said he was aware of Israel’s plans to launch an operation into Lebanon as he urged against such a move. “I’m more aware than you might know and I’m comfortable with them stopping,” he told reporters at the White House. “We should have a ceasefire now.”
Thank you Biden, just wag your finger and keep feeling “comfortable with them stopping”, that is ought to give you some moral victory points which is all that matters (and not thousands of civilians being killed by Israel that’s funded by US).
This will lead to WW3. Plus the blow back will be endless. You can’t murder tens of thousands of people, and displace and starve millions with out creating terrorists.
Not will be. Is. The blowback from last time was, among other things, Hezbollah.
99% of genocidal fascist settler states give up right before winning a 4 front war, FACT
Isn’t it only two fronts? I don’t think there’s much fighting going on in the West Bank, only one-sided slaughter.
they’re also being bombed by Yemen, and iirc there’s a buildup of troops and equipment on the Syrian border in the Golan Heights region
I see. That makes sense.
“Is Lebanon part of Israel’s promised territory?” — Jerusalem Post, 5 days ago
They’ve removed it since. Too mask-off to release in english I guess.
Wow this is batshit.
“promised territory” hmm where have I heard that before…
What the fuck you doing, Israel?
These kinda of things are why the US supports Israel. It helps destabilize the neighbors that don’t fall in line with US interests. The US fears a sovereign Middle East where they get to choose what to do with their own countries and resources, not just for the usual Imperialist reasons, but because of the importance of the petrodollar system.
That’s too 5-d chess for “the US” to pull off. I find it more plausible that the US supports Israel because Israel has a lot of powerful supporters in the US who manipulate public opinion and government policy.
exactly what the us allows them to do. I can only guess that kind old uncle sam has been feeding its billions in war change to israel for reasons more compelling than mere genocide (but that would suffice for some). a middle east ground “incursion” may be it.
because nothing could possibly go wrong with this. nothing at all.
Genocide, same thing they’ve been doing with infinite help from the US
Whatever the fuck they want. Both American parties are pro-genocide, and their voters are either too stupid or too scared to demand otherwise. Its relevant because Israel could be doing absolutely none of this without US backing. US voters had (and somewhat still have) an opportunity to demand from their candidates but as I said, either too stupid or too scared to demand it.
Now Israel has carte blanc.
Support for Israel is “off the table” in American politics. It’s something that won’t even be offered to voters as a choice. I remember when globalization was like this. Between Ross Perot and Donald Trump you had zero candidates on either side who were anti-globalization.
Things I agree with:
- fuck Israel
Things I disagree with:
- Israel has amassed such an arsenal, it can continue this shit on it’s own for a good while. An arms embargo would still be appropriate though
- Voters are demanding a cease fire and have been for a long time. No one is scared. A lot of people have enough national problems to worry about, that they put first
- it’s carte blanche, carte is feminine
Israel has amassed such an arsenal, it can continue this shit on it’s own for a good while. An arms embargo would still be appropriate though
No way. First they can’t use some of those weapons without US approval. They’re made that way. Second, if they were running a more normal terror campaign (like shock and awe for example) that’d be correct, but they’re not. They’re carpet bombing Gaza and Lebanon using “precision” airstrikes. It’s an incredibly wasteful method of genocide that only has the advantage of being able to say “but we’re targeting terrorists”. No way they can keep up this nonsense without unlimited US weapons. Third, Israel would be eaten alive by its neighbors without US diplomatic (or “diplomatic”) support. Do you understand how much support any middle eastern leader would get by sayint “We’ll go fight Israel to save our Palestinian brothers”? The only reason it’s not happening and even Iran is leaving the job to its militias is because of the US carrot and stick.
Israel is being run by a bunch of racist antisemitic ghouls
So it’s actually happening…
I am so so so expecting a nuclear exchange in or around the middle east witin 12 months - possibly after a “dirty nuke” attempt somewhere.
I am clutching at straws to even excuse this out of my top 3 worst case black swans.
only positive news is that nuclear winter will sure fix up that global warming thing real good.
There won’t be an exchange; only Israel has nukes; it’ll just be genocide in a different location
I mean Iran doesn’t have nuclear weapons but they do have a nuclear program and it’s very easy to go from there to nukes. Correct me if I’m wrong but AFAIK the principle behind nukes is pretty simple and it’s modern geopolitics that makes them hard to get.
more than a few actors may (likely?) have very low yield devices. only takes a few to panic people and governments into stupid actions.
I should invest in a radsuit.
This was always going to happen after the pagers exploded. Netanyahu is finalizing his legacy before he loses the next election. He’s taking out all of Israel’s enemies’ ability to wage war.
Netanyahu is ensuring October 10 doesn’t happen again in the foreseeable future and also expanding land grabs at a rapid pace. He doesn’t give a single fuck about civilian death tolls to achieve his goals.
Do you know what blow back is? You don’t just kill tens of thousands of innocent people, and displace/starve millions of people without creating more terrorists. Isreal told us what Hamas and Hezbollah wanted in negotiations. Stop the occupation, embargo, and settlements in Gaza and the west bank and return all land stolen in those areas. Isreal said no. Does that sound responsible for Isreal? No because they don’t want peace. They want the land and will kill everyone currently living on it. Top officials in the Israeli government has publicly said that’s what they want, but we’re still having this fucking discussion?! Nah fam, this is full on genicide. Do you honestly think the middle east will be more peaceful if Israel gets everything they want? Buckle up buckaroo, next stop WW3.
…and this ensures it will happen again. with greater magnitude. the machine needs more meat.
This is pleasing to the USA because the machine needs more money too.
The recent military attacks on the people of Lebanon have increased Netanyahu’s popularity. When people talk about Netanyahu being unpopular, they often forget that this is because his government isn’t sufficiently meeting demands for blood and retribution and making the Israeli Ubermenschen feel like they are perfectly safe and dominant at all times. Attacks on Lebanon checks all 3 boxes, at least in their minds.
Countries typically have the highest approval ratings when waging war.
George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush had the highest approval ratings among US presidents at 89% and 90% respectively when the US was invading Iraq and Afghanistan (source), so this is to be expected.
IIRC, there were members of his administration who resigned due to how slowly he was genociding the Gazans.
Yes and particularly from his special little Gazan genocide task force.
You think he’s going to give up power?
