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This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It’s like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/
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Does anyone know if this is the same way Sober is running the port of Roblox?
How is ATL’s architecture different than Waydroid’s?
Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.
But that they take Newpipe… which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything…
Other apps are
- OSMAnd~
- OrganicMaps
- Grayjay
- Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid
- Amethyst, Voyage
Those are really unique on Android
I’ve been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)
Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub
The OrganicMaps for “regular” Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.
in what situation would you need turn by turn navigation on Linux???
For a linux phone
it’s worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven’t been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.
EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.
Interesting, so the Android SELinux sandbox can work with Apparmor?
I’m using NewPipe daily and it doesn’t seem broken at all?
You use a VPN?
I use a VPN with NewPipe, no problems. I’m using the NewPipe repo for the app
I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.
No VPN or anything, it works great.
Yes with no VPN it will work easier
It’s most likely watching Youtube with your VPN that’s broken then, not NewPipe. Youtube implemented Captchas for IPs that generate a lot of traffic/a lot of people are using. That’s how they are trying to kill frontends like invidious that proxy the requests. NewPipe by default uses your own IP so it doesn’t have that problem. If you use a VPN IP that a lot of others are using too, you’ll get that same problem though.
hey! don’t be mean like that to my baby…
Which version of Newpipe are you using? You’ll want to use their latest release repository rather than the ‘stable’ one, that seems to make it work.
I get the Nightly from Github
Oh, hmmm, no idea then.
I wonder how does it work? New pipe is originally a portarit application for Android.
Newpipe works great on tablets too, a lot of Android apps have a landscape mode
It translates the Android API to Linux desktop-compatible calls, just like Wine does for Windows apps.
This is great. This gives me hope for Linux mobile 🙏🏽
They really shot themselves in the foot by going straight to phones.
The better way would have been to work on tablets first and working out all the bugs on larger devices with a limited feature set before moving into phones with the attendant issues of regional cell bands and restrictions.
tablets (especially ones that could be flashed with Linux, i.e. not iPads) are way less common than smartphones, so you get fewer devices to choose from for testing, fewer users who can run it, report bugs, and support the project, and less interest in general.
The hardware isn’t so much of a problem as there are companies who can make or source compatible tablets like the PineTab2 and the PineNote.
It’s making the software compatible with a lower power mobile device and learning what needs to fixed.
It would have been much easier to deal with getting a tablet up and running before dealing with getting a mobile device functional.
Making the small steps from laptop to tablet then to phone would have saved them a lot of grief and software mistakes.
Interesting concept, if it gets good enough I hope ubuntu touch adopts this because I’m not a big fan of waydroid.
It’s still really basic, but has loads of potential, Unforunately it has a hard requirement on GTK, otherwise there are a few things that would have been nice for greater AX86 in general, for instance they have mediacodec->vaapi support, something ax86 has… struggled with in the past. but we can’t use it since we can’t use gtk.
Ubuntu Touch can’t use GTK? Why not?
[Genuine] Okay, why when Freetube exists though?
This is not about Newpipe itself but more that fact that this is an Android app ran on desktop Linux, without any containers like Waydroid does. This is like Wine, but for Android apps.
Thanks for explaining!
FreeTube doesn’t always have 4k. I don’t remember which format, but a video has to be a certain format to show as 4k. Majority of videos that are shot in 4k show as only 1080p on FreeTube. I welcome new pipe to linux and will actually be using it
Well, good news the newest update to Freetube now adds 4K+ support since they changed the library used to get the videos or something. I have tested it and the video says 4K and seems to be that. Feel free to correct me if you try the latest update and find any discrepancies.
It has indeed been fixed, and I love it. Thank you
That’d be great then. Will be checking soon. Thank you
People who are used to NewPipe can use it
Also this is more of a testament to Android on Linux rather than NewPipe on Linux
Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining!
really buggy on fedora kinoite
Well yes, it’s still early days and very much WIP. But the fact it works at all is amazing and shows what can be done with more work.
feel you, brother
Didn’t work on my Arch (btw) and Fedora
Someone on HN earlier today mentioned they would fix the Arch issues
Wow
