• Escew@lemm.ee
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    9 months ago

    For me it wasn’t about the leveling or end game content. It was the engagement - you had to interact with other players, negatively or positively, to truly progress. Then they added dungeon finder and for all I know the other four players could be bots for all the engagement you get.

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    9 months ago

    I would expect to see this kind of article in 2019 prior to the launch of WoW Classic, not now in October 2023. Classic has had the same mindset that’s pervasive in retail from the very beginning. Everyone rushed straight to 60 and promptly began raidlogging to preserve their precious world buffs. Parsing and speed running in raids was all anyone cared about.

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      9 months ago

      You are right but classic WoW hardcore has really fixed most of those issues because if you rush things you will probably die. Anyway I really agree with this headline because I logged into retail WoW during a thunderstorm because if you DC while you are playing it’s basically an automatic game over, anyway I was bored as hell immediately. Retail is all about doing raids and dungeons, which is fun if you like that but I actually enjoy simply leveling in classic hardcore way more, and the best part is I don’t have to be logged in for hours at a time leveling unlike in raids.

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Classic wow is just grinding. I didn’t play it until they re-released it, and it took me a week to get to level 12. That’s kind of unreasonable.

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          9 months ago

          No he means in the vanilla game. The first 10 levels go extremely quickly if you have even a basic idea is what you are doing.

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          9 months ago

          You have to keep repeating yourself because you are wrong. I played Vanilla in 2006 (about a year after it came out) and also played Classic when it came out. Vanilla might have taken me a week to get to 12, I can’t remember anymore; but it was my first MMO and first RPG, my first time playing a social game and didn’t know how to group to quest or even respond to people whispering me, and didn’t have any friends giving me advice on how to play or know what internet resources to use to speed things up. I didn’t even know I could speed things up.

          With Classic I was probably to level 10 in a night after work. I haven’t leveled a fresh character in Retail since Cataclysm, so I have no idea how fast it is these days.

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      9 months ago

      That’s pathetic ngl an average casual could get to 12 within 4 hours

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        9 months ago

        That’s easy now, but definitely not a thing when classic wow was around.

        Edit: I looked it up, average time to 60 is 30 days in classic wow. Making your 4 hour remark not right.

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          9 months ago

          While four hours would be fast for a new player, 1-10 is very doable in one sitting for those familiar with the game. Early levels are fast; the bulk of those 30 days are later levels. The 50’s in particular are a slog.

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    9 months ago

    Ah yes, the leveling experience. A thing that sucks in every mmo ever made was actually good. Alright then.