• linuxisfun@lemmy.world
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    No need to open a web browser to install another one on Windows 10 and 11.

    All one has to do is open a terminal, type winget install Mozilla.Firefox and hit Enter. ;)

    Pro tip: To update all software on a Windows computer you can type winget upgrade --all and hit Enter (especially useful for computers from family or friends with LibreOffice or Java versions from the stone age …).

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      wow, for a seconds I thought you were mocking windows for not having some central software repo like linux uses apt-get, but it actually works o.O
      TIL winget is a thing.

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        Haha, glad to hear that you discovered winget through my post!

        It was, in my opinion, long overdue for Microsoft to introduce a package manager for Windows, but now that it is there, you can actually use it for all kinds of useful stuff. E. g. I would, if I was using Windows, create a PowerShell script to install my software all at once for whenever I reinstall my computer. This makes reinstalling a lot faster and I have documentation about the programs I had installed before. ;)

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          Count me in the people who had no idea windows had a command line package manager-style tool.

          Does it look for its stuff in the windows store?

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            Winget is able to install applications from multiple sources, including the Microsoft Store. You can see a list of all configured sources by executing winget source list. For regular applications a community repository is preconfigured.

            If you would execute my example command, Firefox would get installed from the community repository. You should be able to use the following command to install the Microsoft Store version of Firefox: winget install 9NZVDKPMR9RD

            9NZVDKPMR9RD is the package id of the Microsoft Store version of Firefox. You can either get it by executing winget search firefox or you can get it from the URL of the Microsoft Store entry.

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              I didn’t expect there to be an officially supported community repository too. Interesting.

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          I think they are still updating their repo, i remember adding few basic repos to them !

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      Upgrade all, wow. I knew about Winget install, but this is so good!! Thanks for the advice 😁

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      I’ll be damned… Did not know that existed. I’ve never used the Windows store and it still found updates for most of what I have installed.

      Thanks!

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      I’ve been using chocolatey for years but TIL about winget. Cheers!

      I’ll probably continue using chocolatey due to supporting more packages, but good to know there’s a built-in package manager in Windows now.

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      This is why I’ll never use Windows, it’s just too complicated for the average person. Imagine having to enter commands into the command line just to upgrade your computer, that’s way beyond most people.

      I’d rather just stick with Mint with its GUI and automatic updates 😉

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      Love it for libreoffice since getting auto update will likely take a decade.

      Use it to upgrade work computers without me sitting there are watching.

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      It used to be when the US had a bit of market regulation still left. Now these super corps just lough their way to the bank while paying fines that are already included in the project. The US lost the fight against their corporations and people are suffering.

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      it used to be when microsoft had the biggest market share

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    Is there even any advantage of using Chrome instead of Edge in 2023? They’re basically the same since both use Chromium and are ridden with trackers and telemetry

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      The advantage is that you get to sell your data to Google instead of Microsoft, yay!

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        In the end the big tech corpos are circle jerking our data anyways unless you go 100% tech free and even then I wouldn’t be surprised if they set-up a profile of you from phones in your proximity.

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          This is why I search for conflicting interests on different browsers. Have fun figuring out whether I’m actually a Lakers or Celtics fan, Google and Microsoft!

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            They have to think I have dissociative identity disorder cause every new account I set up I express a different (or entirely new) part of my personality more strongly 😎👍

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          Linux + Firefox + noscript + unlock origin + VPN + FOSS everything + metal wallet = checkmate corpos?

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      At work we have both, Edge and Chrome, and there actually are minor differences (that might well result from differences in the pushed settings, though). Like, when using our ticketing system, Edge loses the connection to the server after a period of inactivity and Chrome doesn’t. Also, Chrome seems to be a little faster with script processing (subjectively, have never measured…). But otherwise, they’re basically the same, just as you said.

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      Both browsers are equally capable of doing their primary job, which is to download Firefox.

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      Because Edge is the default browser on the most widespread operating system. If you’re using Chrome, you very likely already switched once and are better informed than someone encountering the message on Edge.

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        Whether you use Microsoft spyware or Google spyware, I wouldn’t really consider either choice as “better informed” user. If you want debloated chromium… you can use chromium. Then there is Firefox, Brave, and bunch more as privacy oriented.

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        Chrome have literally a monopoly what are you talking about ? Out of the two, edge (literally chrome but Microsoft Spyware instead of Google) is better just for the AI stuff. People who are used to chrome just default to install it because for some reason they think transferring their bookmarks and passwords is some impossible magic . That being said, use Firefox instead.

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    Why would anyone even use chrome? At least use brave that blocks all the scam ads. Better to use Firefox for sure

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    Theres 1 popup on screen, its the cookies declaration that basically every website has and is completely unrelated to your search.

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      Basically every post like this I’ve seen on Lemmy has been shit similar to this lol. It’s too easy to discredit, I don’t understand how people think it’s a useful argument to make.

      There was one about 3/4 of a news article being covered by ads. Which is true until you start scrolling, the top ad disappears because it was just in the header.

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    Pretty terrible, yes, but with all the bullshit Google is pulling with Chrome, like the Web Integrity stuff, I don’t really mind. It’s assholes vs assholes.

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      Yeah, we just let them fight like monkeys. Because what chrome does i double down on never using chrome ( or chromium based ) browsers.

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      Edge is just chrome, if google supports web integrity it doesn’t matter who doesn’t, whatever google decides to do is automatically the standard since chrome is 3/4 of all web browsers. It’s literally the Microsoft IE thing again.

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        Open source software is supposed to have a built-in safety net, forking. The issue is that people are most often overly reluctant to actually fork projects when they go to shit (especially if they do so by boiling the frog method), or if it gets forked, they rarely really move to the newer forked project and instead keep putting up with the evil old version.

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          No the issue with forking specifically in this instance is google has almost literally half the planet using chrome, over 3 billion users. Forks, Firefox, other browsers, none of them matter. What google does will be the standard, period. Everything else is a minority to be crushed under the ad-laden boot of google.

          The open web was given a terminal diagnosis the second an ad company got control of the browser market, this is just it finally dying. We can’t protest it, we can’t switch to another internet like we switched to another site for reddit, it’s over. We lost.

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            While I can see your level of cynicism on my own horizon, I’m just not there yet.

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      Agreed, but it’s sometimes nice to have a couple/few browser options in case your main one shits out on a website or just starts behaving weirdly.

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        There’s only two browsers, Firefox and Chrome, everything else that’s modern is a reskin of these two browsers.

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    Tbh if you use Google (or YouTube) for the first time the cookie consent popup also takes up the entire screen

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      Right. This post is disingenuous because most users hit that cookie consent prompt on the previous search screen.

      Granted, the top begging prompt is ridiculous on its own.

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    How dare [browser by massive corporation that sells my data for money] make it hard for me to download [browser by massive corporation that sells my data for money]! I will never understand why people still like Chrome.