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Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say::undefined
Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users
Uh oh, some sort of court ruling?
film studios say
Oh right, nothing to see here.
That doesn’t mean they won’t do it, the more the “money taker” class takes control the more their internal regulations actually matter.
Unless we regulate that they can’t do this you can rest assured the businesses will play with each other.
Reddit is going public, they won’t give a fuck about your privacy anymore.
“Film studios” can eat a bag of rotting dicks. Hollywood was literally founded on the specific plot of land that was not only cheap AF, but also as far away from the European filmmakers (they were stealing from) as they could afford.
Fuck. Off.
Yes. Lot of rotten dicks in that industry, but unfortunately the sucking is done by the wrong people.
Weinstein? Do you say Harvey Weinstein? I could’ve sworn you said Harvey Weinstein has had festering dick rot for so long that he’s become an oozing open wound entirely, but that assumes he wasn’t already.
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Now you just gotta post that stuff to the DCS forums.
In this case, it’s less about the actionability of going after the pirate and more about using them as a witness to go after the ISP with deeper pockets by showing they failed to kick pirating users off of their service. They don’t care that they downloaded it, they care that the users knew they wouldn’t get in trouble for piracy with that ISP and that the ISP benefited from that by keeping pirating users subscriptions active. Testimony from pirating users about why they chose that ISP and how even they knew the ISP wouldn’t do anything to resolve copyright violation issues could be pretty helpful in court.
From the article:
In this week’s filing, the film studios claim that six Redditors’ IP address logs are “clearly relevant and proportional to the needs of the case" because the Reddit users all made comments that either establish “that Frontier has not reasonably implemented a policy for terminating repeat infringers sufficient for a safe harbor affirmative” or that “the ability to freely pirate without consequence was a draw to becoming a subscriber of Frontier."
Last year, a Reddit user wrote that they received 44 emails from Frontier threatening to cut off their service due to torrent downloads, but “if they didn’t do it after 44 emails … they won’t."
In 2022, another Reddit user said that they had used Frontier DSL for years and “despite the shitty internet, they didn’t give a shit what I downloaded.”
Oh, well, if the film studios say so then by all means…
Imagine you have a right to know who’s talking about doing something illegal without proof they actually carry it out. What is that, a cop run film company?
Seems a little outdated to ask for IP addresses. Many use apps to browse reddit and phones get new IPs all the time.
Heck I can see some weird shit people download by toggling airplane mode on/off and visiting iknowwhatyoudownloaded
They can get the ip history from isps
How about the four billions VPNs on the market
I believe if you visited using a VPN it would show a lot of downloads.
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Do you think the Shareholders REALLY need it
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So as long as you’re not doing anything illegal, you don’t mind the increasing size of the surveillance state? I doubt you do anything illegal in the bathroom, so you don’t mind if I do a little surveillance on your habits there, right? It’s just for anonymous marketing, I promise.
Something doesn’t seem to line up since you’re anti-google
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Yep. People act like they’re suddenly safe because they switch IP addresses. All those addresses are logged and can be traced by history. Heck, even VPNs can be rendered useless if they keep logs and are subpoenaed, or you forget to log out of services that communicate automatically your IP address when you switch to a VPN. Just takes a little more effort to link the VPN traffic.
People don’t understand that the only thing between them and legal trouble is the willingness of the system to expend the effort to track them down, not that there’s any real security in the easiest methods people use to avoid detection.
Can you give an ELI5 for this site? Is it just a record of torrents you’ve downloaded/seeded from your current ip address?
I’m not sure exactly how but they show which torrents were downloaded from that IP address.
It clears after a certain interval though.
Neat page lmao
Never knew there was such a website.
Oh yeah it’s super helpful. They also have a bitorrent tester so you can see what the seeders see you as.
Yeah i already suspected such thing, but probably because i dont torrent things, i have no experience in there ;D
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Film studios must kiss my ass, says I.
Even if they got the IP addresses, I thought I read an article from a while ago saying that the supreme Court decided that IP addresses aren’t good enough to take any legal action on someone since they’re shared.
Also IP addresses can be spoofed, an extreme example was a teacher who’s life was ruined because it was discovered he was stashing kiddy porn on the school issued computer, and then was exonerated because evidence was found that revealed that the actual pedo was using the victim’s laptop address as basically a VPN to find this stuff without being tracked.
It appears they aren’t taking legal action against the pirates but instead wanting to use them as witnesses against the ISP who has more money to go after and from the sound of it didn’t have decent repeat infringer policies in place. They also are after more than just the IP address, such as name, email address, and logs. That would presumably be enough to identify someone more clearly.
Reddit must not, says I.
Seems we’re at an impasse
I was merly discussing how to stay away from these easy to use services that allow people to pirate. Why do they need my IP?
You know what? I fucking hate movies now. Every movie that comes out these days if trash. But I’m gonna dl all these new blockbusters and fuckin seed them indefinitely. Why? Because fuck em that’s why.
Just wait for the IPO then buy a controlling stake. Seems easier than forcing reddit in court. Spwz loves dick as long as it pays well. No need for the hammer
Should be worth cents on the dollar since they fucked it up so bad
should, yeah.
Trying that one again? Thought they lost last time
Such redundant 8nfo in post. States the same info 3 time for some reason.