This is why I’m cynical of Labour

  • SbisasCostlyTurnover@feddit.uk
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    5 months ago

    I’m a Labour member and I’m cynical of Labour. Still gonna vote for them though, because as much as I think we need a fundamental change to our democratic system, it’s been 14 years of absolute shit for the majority of us, and as someone with young kids, who’s in receipt of benefits…who also rents and has a long-term health condition, I can’t chance having another 14 years of Tory rule.

    Part me me actually wonders if It wouldn’t be better for the country to have a Labour/Lib/SNP coalition. I don’t trust Starmer, and I think our system basically makes it impossible to ditch FPTP when one of the two main parties are only ever a scandal away from earning a majority.

  • Mrkawfee@feddit.uk
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    5 months ago

    I have no idea what Labour stand for other than supporting the bombing of Gaza and Yemen and not opposing the Tories on anything specific.

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      5 months ago

      I mean, I’m really not sure that we can say Labour support the bombing of Gaza. Had Starmer come out and condemned the bombing he would have been called anti-Semitic and the Tories would have repeated that constantly until the election

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        5 months ago

        I think it’s pretty clear by now that “anti-semetic” holds no water. When Israel are abusing the term so blatantly whilst committing war crimes I don’t think even the Tories want to be seen as supporting them.

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          5 months ago

          I think they would still happily use it to beat the labour party with and attempt to link Starmer back to Corbyn in people’s minds

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        5 months ago

        Yes they would have but as Israel’s genocide is plain for all to see it would have had less impact. By being scared off he has ironically kept anti-semitism more potent a weapon to beat Labour with. He’s a fucking useless strategist

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    5 months ago

    businesses are no longer running scared of us, but running towards us — whether that’s donating money or sitting down with us to write our plans for growth.

    I can’t think about a stronger evidence that the Labour party is now just another capitalist serf.

        • *Tagger*@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          Just because there are two things that are not what you would choose, does not make them the same. The current Labour party are not the same as the current Tory party.

          I don’t like beetroot, but if I had to choose between drinking beetroot juice and bleach, throwing my hands in the air and saying “both of these are as bad as each other” is simply not true.

          The conservatives are a bleach that have been poisoning this country for the most 13 years.

          Anyone (at this point in the election cycle) suggesting Starmer is a Tories is either actively at accidentally working for the Conservative Party electoral machine.

      • fifisaac@lemmy.ml
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        5 months ago

        He could go on stage and take a steaming dump on the podium and still out the tories