• C4d@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s a good argument. It has always struck me as odd that the influential right wing of the Conservative Party seem to be so against renewables and nuclear, and all for oil and gas.

    Surely the emphasis should be on self sufficiency and independence from others?

    I would have thought that pride in generating our own power would have been the natural Conservative Party way - part of Conservative ideology, so to speak.

    There could even be bonus points for maintaining our air and water quality.

    Bizarre.

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      I’ve always found this sort of stuff interesting, the stark contrast between what Tory voters preach and what the party has often stood for. The party’s emphasis seems swayed by whoever has the biggest wallet rather than actually promoting traditionally conservative values.

      If anything, the UK has become more dependent on other countries in recent years. Our public transport is pretty much entirely owned by foreign companies that charge extortionate amounts here because their own countries have better regulations.

      They could’ve made Brexit into a huge push to eat more seasonally and support local farmers, which would both help local economy and be more environmentally friendly, but instead they focussed on drawing attention towards immigration

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      You hit the nail on the head there.

      I expect all you have to do is follow the money to find out why their ideology is so flexible!

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      He hasn’t backtracked. Labour are still going to invest billions in green tech, green research and green jobs.

      They’re still going to create a new state-owned green energy company.

      They’re still going to phase out diesel cars.

      They’re still going to change planning laws so that we can build more onshore wind, more quickly (as well as other green infrastructure, like trams and rail).

      They’re still going to ban new licences for North Sea Oil extraction.

      And Ulez in London is going ahead as planned without delay.

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      1 year ago

      He’s fighting the backlash following his criticism of ULEZ a couple of weeks ago

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      1 year ago

      They have said consistently that they cannot undo the amount of damage done to our country in a short time. This will take many parliaments to fix. As such you have to prioritise your biggest gains.

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      Labour doesn’t want to get into power. If they do, then they will have to fix all the shit. But if they continue back-benching, they can still get comfy wages, invites to conferences, etc.

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    What is he talking about… We only get 4% of gas from Russia. The majority comes from Norway.

    Can we not just kick all these morons out?

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      Global gas prices are influenced by what happens in Russia, so if we’re dependent on any gas, we’re somewhat influenced by Putin. Also, I think it’s fair to argue that even 4% is 4% too much!

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        dependent on any gas

        Wind’s variable nature kind of means that one needs to use it in conjunction with natural gas or something similar that can fill in the gaps.

        Maybe one could just use geothermal or nuclear, but if one goes with wind, unless one has a lot of hydropower capacity, there’s probably also going to be some level of natural gas in the mix.

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          Wind, nuclear, tidal, solar, geothermal and even biogas if deployed correctly — the combination can get us off fossil gas. I’m pro-nuclear myself, which I think is where Labour is leaning, too.

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            The key lies in energy storage. Create more than you need during the peak times and store it by other means.

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              Indeed, but more research and development is needed to scale up storage to that level, and that R&D will itself take time and money.