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Trust me no one missed that. Bigots can get fucked.

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Conservatives are evil and not welcome here.

You’re not great at trolling

So you want the president to seize more power than they legally have and for that escalation to continue whether a fascist is in office or not. Yeah great plan.

do people not understand that they currently aren’t in power?

There’s not much people understand. But they will 100% confidently talk about anything like they know it all.

Just say you despise Americans and stop pretending to want better for them

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I would say the rules actually are you’re required to lie on the Internet.

I understand, I just felt you were stating things as if they’re objectively true. Maybe I missed something. Have a good rest of your day.

So you’re saying all of this as though “on the surface” is all I’ve ever considered and have never tried to do what you claim to be the only acceptable way to do things. It is only your opinion that dynamic UI elements aren’t worth it. They particularly help with forms. Conditional data in forms aren’t something I just made up, it’s a legit use case. Again I’ve tried your way and I lasted less than a day. Very poor experience.

I hear you on qubes.

RE: js, you’re talking about the web as if it should only ever be what it was first conceived of: documents. In reality now it’s used for full on software applications. It’s not just used for animations and polish (and the shitty things you mention specifically), it’s also used for dynamically updating the UI. A world you speak of would mean much worse order forms, paperwork for doctors, etc. I mean you do you, but you can’t just not acknowledge that dynamic updates of a UI are better than filling out a long form then getting back “invalid data, you selected this and entered that, start over”. It’s literally useful.

The tracking concerns are mostly mitigated by vpns, ad blockers, and private browser features. I understand there are many flaws and issues I’m glossing over, but for the most part, the average person can just use those things, then opt to close the tab of a horrible website like you’re describing.

tldr; you may prefer static documents, but modern society is built on forms and other types of vital apps, which would inevitably be worse without javascript.

I will give qubes-whonix a shot, you have convinced me!

There are certain functionalities that cannot be done without JavaScript. In my perfect world either no one would abuse JavaScript with ads and other shitty design choices, or at least I’d have an easier time with toggling it off/on. For now I’m leaving JavaScript on because it’s simply far too inconvenient otherwise. Browsers are pretty good about preventing actual harm if you have UBO installed though.

Out of curiosity, what harm are you concerned about JavaScript doing with an ad blocker and while loading sites within a container? That seems extreme to me.

Okay I just did some cursory research and it doesn’t sound simple. Is it just installing qubes-whonix and creating a template (I’m guessing a yaml config or similar)?

As far as sites with JavaScript being “broken”, that one puzzles me. I have tried turning off JavaScript in the past and probably 70% of websites became fully non functional. That shouldn’t be the case, but it often is, and my impression has been that this has gotten worse, not better. I’m a web developer and no one talks about progressive enhancement anymore and frankly my coworkers have mostly thought it’s silly to even try to support users who turn off JavaScript.

Those last two panels are so far past the inconvenience I’d ever be willing to put up with. I’m not sure how it could ever be worth it.

Don’t try to lick them now

And it probably feels faster than the slop machine

This description is very similar to all versions of the teams app. It took them like 3 years to get it past what felt like a beta.

Yes we all know you hate Americans. You rarely miss an opportunity to tell us. Thanks, noted and totally helpful btw