cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/4221949
Court Rules in Pornhub’s Favor in Finding Texas Age-Verification Law Violates First Amendment::A Texas law requiring age-verification measures for porn sites, challenged by Pornhub and others, violates the First Amendment, a judge ruled.
Okay, but can we all agree that kids shouldn’t be exposed to pornography?
You guys are really downvoting this? Man you guys fucking suck. What’s wrong with you people?
Define “kids”
Define “pornography”
I’m not being pedantic - this is one of the reasons the law was struck down.
Oh boy……
From my post explaining the judgment in non-legalese above
I’m just trying to make sure you guys agree that kids shouldn’t be exposed to pornography.
Some fucking retard is asking me to define ‘kids’ and ‘pornography’
Everyone immediately downvoting my comment of ‘you guys don’t think kids should be exposed to pornography, right?’
I think this is an important distinction. We need to start there and then we can move forward and find ways to protect them from it.
But it makes sense to make sure we are starting from the same place.
The dude asking about what kids and pornography means is probably a fucking creep
That “fucking retard” is also me, and as I added to the comment, that specific difference is part of the judgment.
People are downvoting you for the same reason they disapprove of the law - your comment seems disingenuous.
Ways to protect children already exist, and are more effective, as the judgment also found.
I just really hate this place and the people who post here
This is a solvable problem. You can just not log in.
Not sure why you hate people for explaining a judgment to you that you clearly did not read.
I’ve been thinking about it pretty hard over the past couple days.
There is nothing for me here, why would I bother keeping this app on my phone?
I hate lemmy users because of how stupid they are and how far left they lie thinking is. ‘Explaining’ a judgment to me doesn’t answer the question of “but we still don’t want kids exposed to porn, right guys?”
And the reactions I’ve gotten even asking that question really makes me read between the lines on this. Your answer of ‘well define kids and porno’ really really make me read between the lines.
Should be a pretty easy thing for everyone here to agree on, but it’s been a visceral reaction to dodge the question and downvote the idea, even.
That tells me all I really need to know.
I’m sure you’ll fit right in on truth social
Really, bruh?
Really
Ezekiel 23:18-21
Genesis 19:35
Prostitution, horse sized dicks, breast fondling, incest and rape.
Should Americans under the age of 18 be banned from reading the bible because it is arguably pornographic?
Or is it important that we define what constitutes pornography and what constitutes a child, so that banning the bible isn’t possible?
And don’t think this is me simply being funny. The bible has been been banned in some schools and for some ages, thanks to these kinds of overly broad and poorly written laws.
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So kids shouldn’t be exposed to pornography, right?
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As long as we agree on that
I’m not sure why you felt the need to say this. Have you met many people that are OK with kids watching porn?
It Lemmy, it’s a bunch of underaged communists here and weird creepy tech bros.
The two comments made here were very unclear about what made them happy about this. I’m just making sure you guys celebrating this aren’t a bunch of fucking weirdos.
So we agree that kids shouldn’t be exposed to pornography?
Good.
Now what do we do about it?
Per the judgment, parental monitoring software is both superior in efficacy, per the state’s own findings, and sufficient under the intent of the law to prevent minors from accessing pornography, while not inviting first amendment challenges
In other words, as the state likes to claim about schools, parents are the ones responsible for preventing access to content the parents fund questionable.
My full explainer of the judgment is above if you’d like to read it.
I’m not confused about the judgment
How about the common sense thing? It’s the parents’ job to monitor their kid’s internet activities. If you give your kid unfettered access to the internet on their phone of computer than you should be held liable for the results. If your kid lets their friends access porn on those insecure devices that too is your fault. If their school fails to lock down their network to block inappropriate material then that school should be held liable.
The current Texas law puts every adult user’s privacy at risk rather than holding the parents responsible for their own failures. In addition, it’s written so broadly that it would quickly be used against any site the Texas Republicans choose to target in their culture wars such as sex-ed and LGBTQ+ education sites.
I think you guys are misunderstanding my stance on this. I don’t like this solution either.
But I do want to make sure people are celebrating this for a reason that makes sense, and not because they don’t care if kids have access to pornography.
Because I do not believe that anyone is able to monitor someone else’s internet access exclusively at all times. Kids go to friends houses, or get friends devices all the time.
Pornography is accessible in places that are not exclusively pornhub.
You would have to block lemmy from your router if you had kids, for example.
Not many parents are even tech savvy enough to know that’s possible, or even what lemmy is.
This is not the right solution, but neither is slapping a label of 18+ on content.
It wouldn’t surprise me to learn that a lot of people commenting on this are just absolutely fine with children being exposed to inappropriate sexual materials online. Because lemmy’s user base skews hard to the left
You right wingers should rename yourselves the “What about” party
You left wingers should rename yourselves the ‘groomer’ party
You just proved my point, you’re constantly changing the subject. Well, good luck with that, boomer.
Sorry, didn’t you change the subject when you said that? I said almost word for word what you already said lmao
Are you okay, man? I was following YOUR lead
I think the issue here is that people don’t want to share private data such as their fucking driver’s license with a tech company that can be hacked, rather than whatever the fuck you’re pulling out your ass, but you’re too fucking retarded to understand nuance outside of it mentioning “porn,” “access,” and “children.”
It’s a big “what about” - where you rolled back around to missing the entire fucking point while also confirming that you’re a right-wing dipshit.
They pointed out that your entire argument is in bad faith, and you confirmed that your entire argument is in bad faith - just to dumb it down further since you clearly fucking need it.
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Nobody’s disagreeing about that.
Good
Generally speaking that should be the goal, but I started watching porn when I was pretty young and would do so again if I had to start my life over. It’s up to parents to stop that kind of behavior, not the government.
Generally I think there should be zero regulation on age verification for things like porn and other “adult” content.
It’s the parents job to police their kids, not the state. Any government regulations regarding age verification would likely infringe on our rights.