A majority of House Republicans voted against sending more than $60 billion to Ukraine. But it passed anyway, and it now heads to the Senate.
  • The House passed a more than $60 billion bill that provides more military aid to Ukraine.
  • It’s part of a larger foreign aid package that’s likely to pass the Senate and be signed into law.
  • 112 Republicans voted it against — the most ever, and a majority of the GOP conference.

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Saturday’s vote marked the first time the House had approved billions of dollars in Ukraine aid since December 2022, when Democrats still controlled the chamber.

In the two years since Russia’s invasion, opposition to aiding Ukraine has grown from a fringe position to a majority view among House GOP lawmakers. Many argue the money should be spent domestically or that policy changes at the US-Mexico border should take precedence.

Here are the 112 House Republicans who voted against the bill.

  • @OftenWrong
    -7•28 days ago

    They also snuck the TikTok ban in there. I know a lot of old and out of touch folks on here think it’s a good thing to ban the “dancing app” but is it? They couldn’t get enough support to do it as a single issue the last two times they tried so the shoved it into this one to get their way. Ludicrous that our government doesn’t even pretend to work for us anymore. It wasn’t banned to protect us. It was banned to boost and protect their income.

    • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
      4•28 days ago

      From what I’ve read they are just requiring that it not be owned by the CCP by a certain date, i.e. it’s not actually being banned, it’s just going to have a change of ownership. I might be old and out of touch because I’ve never used TikTok but it seems reasonable that an app which is providing the kind of content it provides at the scale it is providing it should be independent of the Chinese government if it wants to operate in the US.

      • @OftenWrong
        -1•28 days ago

        It’s not going to change ownership because they have said in no uncertain terms that they won’t and can’t sell. They can’t legally sell their algorithm anyway which is basically the whole point of the app. So even if they did, which they have stated they can’t and won’t, it’ll be a skeleton of what we have now at best. At that point it’ll just be them selling our data to some shitty US corporation which honestly pisses me off more. The people said no to this, they pushed it through anyway, and to top it off we’re once again just having our data handed over to the top bidder. We should be used to people using our data without our consent but it feels especially shitty this time considering we said no.

        What kind of content do you think it’s providing that’s so much more dangerous in some other countries hands? Also, why should I care if China profits off my data when the US has been stealing and abusing it for their own purposes for years anyway?

        • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
          1•28 days ago

          The risk is that it provides the CCP with a direct avenue to propagandize Americans and spread disinformation in the US. If you’re an American then you should maybe care that a government which considers itself an adversary of the US can use your data to manipulate you into believing untrue things which serve their interests instead of your own. I understand if you don’t care who profits from your data but that’s not the actual issue here.

          • @OftenWrong
            0•27 days ago

            Ok. Show me where the propaganda is? Is it hiding in the recipe videos or cat videos or memes on my page that were made by other Americans? This is a bs excuse that way too many of you gobbled up simply because you wanted to believe it. The actual issue here is that millions of Americans aren’t profiting American corporations and they hate that. So the corporations that basically run our country at this point found a way to put a stop to it. Now they’ll try to buy up all of our data, without our consent as usual, under the guise of protecting it for us.

            As an American, my own government ignored millions its citizens telling them we don’t want this and quietly banned it by tucking it away inside of other bills. As an American, my own government is using my tax dollars to fund a genocide while declining to feed school kids and protect women’s rights. As an American, I’m disappointed in my fellow Americans’ eagerness to dismiss and defend this extremely unpatriotic act by our government.

            Take a look at the buffoons “protecting us” and tell me you still believe they have good intentions and aren’t just fear mongering.

            https://youtu.be/5W-ufw5Z7ac?si=byjdYoRRl5qx6jUL https://youtu.be/cuCk4ofsTkM?si=kf6m1BzB2fuaGr4x

            They don’t even know basic geography or how the internet works ffs. Feel free to watch the whole thing. It was long but really eye opening to see just how little the people representing us actually understand about the world we live in.

            • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
              1•27 days ago

              I think you need to dig into the actual arguments being made around this subject and try engaging them with an open mind. If you’re currently incapable of understanding how TikTok can be used to spread propaganda it’s pointless for us to discuss this.

              • @OftenWrong
                0•27 days ago

                What a non-answer. If you can’t hold up your end of the conversation by backing up your own claims then just say that and don’t waste people’s time.

                • @ultranaut@lemmy.world
                  1•27 days ago

                  Yes, it’s a non-answer because the questions you asked in your previous comment are enough for me to know its pointless to engage further with you. If you’re unable to recognize the potential risks involved we are not going to accomplish anything discussing this issue.