• ThereRisesARedStar [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    11 months ago

    The quickest way to achieve peace is for Putin yo withdraw.

    And then get couped and have the war continue under the leadership of a right wing hardliner

    Please look up critiques of great man theory as it seems relevant to your line of thinking on this matter.

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      11 months ago

      So what you are saying is Putin messed up and is in too deep now, no? Seems like the easiest solution would have been to not invade UkrIne

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        11 months ago

        No, if he didn’t he would have been couped and the invasion launched anyway. Russia is a dictatorship of capital. Putin answers to the national bourgeoisie of Russia.

        Also hypotheticals like that aren’t really relevant to discussing actual exit strategies. Unless you’ve found a way to hop realities.

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          11 months ago

          Then they deserve defeat at the hands of Ukraine. If they want to go into a war on their own volition, then they will have to face to consequences. If that requires NATO might, then so be it. Peace was always an option.

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              11 months ago

              I disagree. The fact that Russia (a supposed world super power) is still there means Ukraine is winning. Russia can’t beat little ol’ Ukraine in a war. I’d say they are in a better position than we think.

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                11 months ago

                The fact that Russia (a supposed world super power) is still there means Ukraine is winning.

                The fact that Russia didnt shock and awe it’s way across a country that has the entirety of NATO backing it means Russia is losing? Lmao ok.
                NATO is running out of equipment because it’s supplying Ukraine. Russia is basically taking on NATO and winning, but go off

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            11 months ago

            Then they deserve defeat at the hands of Ukraine.

            I disagree, but even if I agreed I’d accept the material reality that is that Ukraine is bleeding people. The have a volksturm going on, it’s a meat grinder, I think they should stop this mindless slaughter