• Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    2014 is when Russia first invaded Ukraine.

    Is that your actual answer? That’s all you think that happened in 2014? I’m asking because it’s pretty impossible to gauge wether you’re being a smug idiot or just an idiot right now.
    Getting an answer out of a lib really is like pulling teeth, you’re completely incapable of good faith discussion. Why is it so hard for you to answer a simple question? Why do you refuse to just engage in good faith with those that respond to you? Are you incapable of being a smugh shitheel?

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      You said Russia didn’t unilaterally invade Ukraine, because of what happened in 2014. I poked fun at how ridiculous that was and now you refuse to explain what you meant. Now you’re just projecting and insulting me instead of explaining what you mean and how Russia was threatened in any way that justifies Russia’s actions.

      I know what happened in 2014, again, I have family in Ukraine. Are you going to explain your reasoning or are you just going to get yourself off on how much smarter you are than me, and how great your argument/discussion skills are, without giving anything of substance?

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        You said Russia didn’t unilaterally invade Ukraine, because of what happened in 2014.

        I’ve so far said nothing about wether or not Russia invaded Ukraine. I’ve literally only asked you about what happened in 2014. So far you’ve failed to answer.

        Now you’re just projecting and insulting me instead of explaining what you mean

        Yeah, like you’ve been doing all the way through. Answer the question.

        I know what happened in 2014,

        Then tell me. Why is it so hard to just answer a question? What happened in 2014?

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          Yeah, like you’ve been doing all the way through.

          Quote where I’ve insulted you.

          Then tell me. Why is it so hard to just answer a question? What happened in 2014?

          You’re the one making claims, you tell me what you think happened that justifies what Russia’s doing, or even provoked them in some way.

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            1 year ago

            Quote where I’ve insulted you

            I meant the projection.

            You’re the one making claims, you tell me what you think happened that justifies what Russia’s doing, or even provoked them in some way

            What claims have I made? Quote them to me please. I’ve literally only asked you to answer the question, WHICH YOU STILL HAVENT DONE. Why is it so difficult?

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              In response to someone saying Russia invaded unilaterally, you referenced what happened in 2014, as if that provoked or justified Russia’s current actions. That is your argument, you should explain it. Unless you’re just Just Asking Questions.

              I’m open to actually discussing it with you if you’ll actually explain what you mean and why you feel that way, because I’ve been following the situation for years and don’t know how one would come to that conclusion.

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                you referenced what happened in 2014, as if that provoked or justified Russia’s current actions.

                I’m not the user that referenced it. Once again: I’ve literally only asked you to answer the question. Had I been the one to state the question initially, you still wouldn’t be able to make that conclusion, it is a huge assumption that that would be the line of reasoning, angle of argument or anything else. It could just as easily have been a way to see where we disagree, create a common basis from which to have an argument, to help illustrate a point of larger context or something else entirely. It is common for a discussion to create a basis of shared understanding from which we can then diverge or argue.

                Im open to actually discussing it with you if you’ll actually explain what you mean and why you feel that way.

                No thanks. Its pretty clear you’re not capable of pleasant or good faith discussion, instead choosing weird debate tactics, condescention and strawmanning me. I’ve literally only asked you to answer a question, and you haven’t been able to fulfill this simple request. It’s pretty clear any extended conversation would just be even worse.
                Maybe when you’re less of an antagonistic debatelord.