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    Considering t-rump’s support would be non-existent or borderline condemning the LGBTQ+ community, I’ll take anything Biden says in support as a win.

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      Look, I want to stop killing innocent civilians in Palestine too, but it doesn’t mean we need to forget everything else, especially marginalized people here in the US.

      Many of us can think about more than one thing at a time.

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        Lol fuck yeah let’s give him another reason to ignore children being murdered indescriminately from the skies. They can wait a month while Biden hides behind our rainbow flag.

        I’m sick of the “we can do multiple things at once” rhetoric when so often we prove no, we fucking can’t. We forget the last TikTok we just watched but yeah, don’t worry Palestine we just need a month.

        Im not exactly excited to watch a man with no red line in sight hide behind the one on our flag.

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          Eh whatever then. You just gonna be mad then and there’s no point discussing it online for you anymore.

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            Yeah I have hard time feigning indifference to genocide so we can shove rainbow themed capitalism down everyone’s throats, sorry man.

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              No apologies needed. You don’t mean it anyways. You’re just pretending anyone not actively engaged in your focus is against it. It’s a gaslighting tactic.

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                Lol people still not knowing what the fuck gaslighting means. My original comment was that Biden would use this to distract from the shit everyone is mad at and you proved my point by letting him use the rainbow flag as a convenient distraction to hide from his fuck ups.

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              I mean, you’ve only mentioned Palestine. You’re being indifferent to Russia’s attempted genocide of Ukraine, the genocide in Darfur, and the Uighur Genocide.

              Are you truly indifferent to them? Or are they just among the global issues you’re worried about?

              If you can only focus on one thing at once, how are you deciding on which genocide to focus on?

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                Yeah it’s almost like my original comment was about how Biden was going to use pride month to hide from bad PR and he’s not getting bad PR from helping Ukraine is he? I know it’s hard to focus on the entire conversation, you keep getting distracted by the most recent post. Hence my point.

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          Another person who is perfectly willing to throw LGBT people under the bus. We see you for what you are stop pretending moral superiority.

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          The funny thing is this is not a new situation this has been happening continuously over all our lifespans not only in Palestine. And now it’s not even done directly by the US military which has been the case the last decades. Activism on all fronts always has to be the way to go.

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        Crazy to watch people more desperate for an empty month of rainbow themed trinkets being sold to them over more important shit but hey, you’re definitely the sane one.

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          Yeah, let’s just do away with LGBT pride, we clearly lost the oppression games and therefore have nothing to be proud of!

          God, I wish I was so fucking ignorant.

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            That’s even more complicated than I thought it was. I’m not happy about it either, but I’m also not a protest voter, so I’d have voted for Biden either way.

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            Yet other American weapons continue to move through the approval process unabated. That includes a potential $1 billion tranche containing tank ammunition, tactical vehicles and mortar rounds that the administration reported to Congress on Tuesday. Biden also made clear the U.S. will continue to provide defensive weapons, including interceptors for its Iron Dome air defense system.

            :-/

            Also

            Legally, the U.S. can’t cut Israel off completely. Since 2008, the U.S. has had to weigh all arms sales to Israel and other countries in the region against the requirement that Israel maintains a “qualitative military edge” against all enemies, both state and non-state actors.

            This is absolutely untrue. As Israel is in violation of international law, they are no longer eligible to receive foreign aid. The US response to the ICJ’s findings has been to condemn the court and threaten its members. That’s about as legal as Trump threatening the members of the SDNY over his hush money prosecution.

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              Misinformation or uneducated. Which one is it? I love how you compare Trump, because it gave away that you’re either a boogaloo, a tankie, or just a dumb accelerationist.

              There are no universal rules or binding international laws that automatically make a country ineligible for foreign aid if it is found to be in violation of international laws.

              Biden tried to stop giving them weapons, but got shut down by congress.

              Republican lawmakers, along with some Democrats, have introduced legislation aimed at restricting Biden’s ability to withhold military aid. This legislation states that no federal funds may be used to halt or reverse the delivery of defense articles or services to Israel. The proposed legislation would also require certifications to Congress from the Secretaries of State and Defense to ensure that any withheld defense items are delivered to Israel. This measure reflects bipartisan support in Congress for maintaining robust military assistance to Israel despite the administration’s efforts to impose some restrictions

              What you’re doing is spreading misinformation in an attempt to prevent Biden from winning the election, allowing Trump to win the election, and sending the United States into the toilet. All because because you are either brainwashed or being paid. You tell me…

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                Biden tried to stop giving them weapons

                He threatened to, but he did not.

                What you’re doing is spreading misinformation

                Biden continuing to supply weapons to Israel in defiance of the ICJ ruling is indisputable.

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                  “Biden” doesn’t have a choice. If you knew US foreign policy, you’d know that.

                  He didn’t just threaten, it got shot down in congress.

                  You—like many Americans—seem to have this idea that the president is all-powerful. There are checks and balances for a reason. Unfortunately, good policies can also get shot down without enough support.

                  But by all means, continue to spread misinformation. 🤷‍♂️

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      OK im fine with heterosexual cis people I just don’t like the community around it and stop focusing kids to think there straight your cis when there not let them figure it out later in life not when there 8

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        Yes I’m fine with LGBTQ+ people but I want people to figure out there gender I just don’t think a 8 year old can decide on their gender because I was a shit head when I was 8 like all 8 years olds I just don’t like when schools force kids to think there lgbtq+ when there not

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          No one is forcing any child to think THEY’RE anything other than who they are. And THERE is no proof that exists that you could provide that would argue against this fact.

          You’re clearly not “fine” with the LGBTQ+, or you wouldn’t be spreading misinformation about them.

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      Removed, transphobia. The whole point isn’t making kids think they are non-binary, it’s to let kids who already know they are non-binary that they are normal and loved for who they are.

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        It’s amusing to see cis-het extremists try to hold these two competing ideas in their heads:

        • Sexuality is entirely a choice and you can be tricked or peer pressured into having romantic feelings for another person

        • There is a CORRECT Sexuality and an INCORRECT Sexuality, written in the firmament of heaven. Any comment or situation that causes you to question your cisgendered or heterosexual nature is an attack on your person.

        Like, which is it? Are we all naturally gender-fluid and chasing the latest popular sexual trend? Or is there a rigid biological mandate that’s supposed to keep everyone straight?

        Also, why are you obsessed with making babies? Just endlessly fixated on having more and more and more kids, as quickly as possible? Everything about human sexuality seems to be rooted in the theory that dudes need to be fucking and ladies need to be getting pregnant constantly.

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        I’m not being transphobic im fine with teaching kids about LGBTQ+ stuff I just don’t like when it’s forced on people like in almost all of the schools that I have attended

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          How it is being forced on you exactly? What precisely have you seen in “almost all of the schools” you attended where anyone was forcing kids or forcing you to be LGBTQ+?

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            Im not sure but both my old highschools completely banned having even a picture of a rainbow and numerous books, so I’d gladly swap with whatever reality this guy’s from

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          Kinda like how they force you to learn about other religions and cultures in history class. It’s confusing for the children

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      Would like to suggest that you are in fact not okay with LGBTQ+ people. You enjoy the inflated concept of your own tolerance of them - but only when they mince delicately around your sensibilities.

      Might as well say " I am tolerant of briefly being in the same space as with queer people but only when they are isolated and never in a situation where their culture, needs or comfort is centered." It’s a low bar dude. You don’t have to like it It’s not for you and nobody is waiting on your blessing.

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        I’m a dumb person can I can’t put most stuff in to words but I can say this is the video that pretty much describes what I don’t like about the LGBTQ+ community but I’m fine with LGBTQ+ people like MYSELF and most of my family https://youtu.be/WjKjCqfMrHE

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          I am sorry that you aren’t comfortable with hardcore Prides. There are family friendly ones if you want to go but these are spawned by a history of protests. They remain protests. The community of Prides remain as a core of organization and links of communication that can be mobilized if shit goes really south. Nobody is forcing people to go to them.

          Also I will save people some time, using a video of someone who straight up says they have never BEEN to one? Really? If this person hasn’t even attended one why are they speaking out about them? They do not actually know about them. If you have fallen for this respectability politic what I say is still relevant.

          You may be gay but that doesn’t make you tolerant of the community. You don’t want to be a part of the wider community or the cutting edge of the cultue that’s fine. But there are a lot of people particularly gay and lesbian people who once they “got theirs” peaced out and decided that they could disappear into the mass of the hegemony with barely a whisper. Not everyone wants to do that. Not every one can. Trans advocacy was key to making same sex marriages legal, we have been there since the beginning facing the same persecution… and some people remember and are helping to pay that back.

          You want to play house and sneer at the queers great. You became what the people who fought for you fought against. Bigoted people will look to you and use your bigotry to excuse their own. That you echo their fucking talking points like a parrot who takes treats from their hands tells me you enjoy being kept. That you are as incurious about the community as the person in this video and you are using them to soothe your own bigotry just like others will use you. You don’t have to like the community but you don’t have to fuel some bigots fucking ego for them either. Sometimes it’s tactful to keep your opinions to yourself.

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      Hypothetical question, are you okay with teaching children about straight relationships? Or is that something they should figure out later in life, not when they’re 8?

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      unfortunately kids develop gender at like 3 old and sometimes they’re trans. that’s just biology