(Seizing the state and then slowly reforming it is still slowly reforming it)

  • seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz
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    5 months ago

    This is an anti-historical take. You can disagree with ML methods or ideology while still acknowledging where they have had material success in bringing about wins for the working class.

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      5 months ago

      Uhh no, as you can clearly see the ML is the NPC so they’re unequivocally in the wrong here. Duh.

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      4 months ago

      Really, that’s very interesting. I didn’t know marxist-leninists did any communist revolutions. I thought they only did socialist revolutions, and then expected the state to magically wither away over time. Of course, as you and I both know, Marx defined communism as stateless, so socialism with a state is not communism, and a revolution that doesn’t immediately dismantle the state isn’t a revolution producing communism. Could you give me any historical examples of marxist-leninists doing communist revolutions? Because honestly I thought only anarchists had ever done a real communist revolution.