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Reason: so suggesting genicide is ok?Have the Zionists ever done a number on people.
Reporter and @SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world, what if I told you a people is not a state?
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I know, and sorry, I didn’t mean to imply that you did.
You really should clarify whether you mean the state or the people.
States don’t have rights (they exist at the pleasure of their citizens), but people do.
Since you like apartheid comparisons. Do the whites in south Africa have a right to exist? I would say yes.
Its a question of coexistence and how that is going to look like.
But hey nice radical and easy solution to a complex problem. Kudos for going the extra mile cognitively!
Are you trying to equate the ideology of a political regime with a minority population of South Africans?
South Africa had no right to exist as an apartheid state, and Israel has no right to exist as an apartheid state.
After apartheid ended and living conditions improved, black South Africans didn’t go and slaughter every white South African as retribution, so when Israel says freed Palestinians would slaughter all Israelites, why should we believe them?
If the occupation ended today and Palestinians were allowed to live fairly and given ample resources to rebuild, what reason would they have to seek further conflict? If treated fairly, why would Palestinians act any differently than the South Africans freed from apartheid? This conflict is ultimately the direct result of unfair treatment after all.
Maybe a disclaimer ahead: it’s absolutely atrocious what Israel is doing in Gaza. Leveling it and probably filling it with Jews when rebuilding it. The whole thing is a 911 like overreaction and I do not support any of it.
Does not matter what some court says it is or not. That piece of land will most likely be ethnically cleansed.
At the same time saying Israel has no right to exist can mean many things from not in it’s current form to all Jews in the sea. That’s the problem with dumbass slogans like this.
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Depends on what “right to exist” means here.
Nobody has the right to exist Morpheus… You must fight for it. Rights are just a human construct and one of the greatest lies contained within the matrix.
Well, duh. All governments are cancer
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No this one would be anti-zionistic.
Denying the Jews the right to self-determination that all other peoples have is antisemitic.
Israel is a criminal state that should be stopped. But we can do that, we should do that, without antisemitism.
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The goal should be the two states solution. It won’t be possible if there isn’t a strong international pressure on Israel. Again, Israel is a criminal state and should be treated as such. So is Russia, and nobody publishes memes on how Russia has no right to exist.
We have seen how well the two states solution worked in the last 50 years.
I never saw a strong international pressure to make Israel comply.
There has always been a strong international pressure against it. But the USA always vetos any resolution against Israel. The USA controls the UN.
I agree two states are probably the most realistic solution to the current situation. But I don’t think Israel should have been established by colonial powers in the first place.
Nobody is suggesting that, people are arguing in favor of dismantling a fascist ethno-state.
It would be replaced by what?
A single state solution over Palestine and former Israel, with equal citizenship.
Thus you’re denying the right of self determination for the Jew people. QED.
How?
Not really. It doesn’t deny Jews the right to exist, just the Jewish ethno state that was established by colonial powers.
