@Radical_EgoCom@NoiseColor@yogthos Rosa Luxemburg explained all this better than I could and she wasn’t even an anarchist (but really take your pick of almost any non-ML communist theorist).
But in summary: implementing communism inherently deprives counterrevolution of the capital it needs to function, so any delay in implementing communism is at best a strategic error and at worst an indication that the org has already become counterrevolutionary.
[implementing communism inherently deprives counterrevolution of the capital it needs to function]
Besides the threat of imperialism from other countries that would make creating a stateless society impossible to do now without it being invaded, you’re making the act of creating communism sound much easier than it actually is, and you’re also downplays the actually threat of counter-revolution as something that can be easily brushed away.
@Radical_EgoCom@NoiseColor@yogthos the threat of internal counter-revolution actually can be easily brushed away as thoroughly demonstrated by both logic and history: it’s only a significant problem for projects that attempt a “transitional state”.
History also shows how directly implementing communism doesn’t in itself make the project vulnerable to imperialism, but rather starting too small does.
@jeremy_list @NoiseColor @yogthos
[immediate transition is not only possible in theory but actually has some precedent]
– How is it possible in theory, and what precedent does it have?
[expecting a transitional state to actually continue the transition is even less rational than expecting Jesus to show up and start helping]
Why?
@Radical_EgoCom @NoiseColor @yogthos Rosa Luxemburg explained all this better than I could and she wasn’t even an anarchist (but really take your pick of almost any non-ML communist theorist).
But in summary: implementing communism inherently deprives counterrevolution of the capital it needs to function, so any delay in implementing communism is at best a strategic error and at worst an indication that the org has already become counterrevolutionary.
How do you want to achieve this? Globally at once? Or bit by bit? Can you please Rosas work?
@jeremy_list @NoiseColor @yogthos
[implementing communism inherently deprives counterrevolution of the capital it needs to function]
Besides the threat of imperialism from other countries that would make creating a stateless society impossible to do now without it being invaded, you’re making the act of creating communism sound much easier than it actually is, and you’re also downplays the actually threat of counter-revolution as something that can be easily brushed away.
@Radical_EgoCom @NoiseColor @yogthos the threat of internal counter-revolution actually can be easily brushed away as thoroughly demonstrated by both logic and history: it’s only a significant problem for projects that attempt a “transitional state”.
History also shows how directly implementing communism doesn’t in itself make the project vulnerable to imperialism, but rather starting too small does.