I had a feeling they’ll put something like this, so I went in every now and then to see how infinity will react. I really loved the app, devs did an amazing job

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    I find it extremely ironic that all the closed source apps, some with subscription options, are closing or moving to support open platforms, while the prime FOSS app is staying with Reddit and going subscription only.

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      Is is because the sole developer was actually a CS student, now looking for a first job (sick what he achieved at his age right ?) so he has no time to change the app to support Lemmy. However he said that should someone pick up the development, it should not be to hard to integrate the new feeds to it.

      See 2nd link in the post.

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      Yeah it’s baffling. I haven’t touched Reddit since the blackout but I still had my Infinity app installed, just out of nostalgia I guess. While the dev has every right to do businesses with whomever he wants, I expected differently from a FOSS project. Now to delete Infinity…

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      oof. the only reason I even used infinity was to browse reddit without an account. now there’s less of a reason to use it past July.

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      It is baffling but maybe he sees that there will be very few decent third party apps and an opportunity to monetize his work. I have seen discussion of scripts that compile infinity from source with a personal API key. So, the FOSS option still being maintained is a win I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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        True, I just worry that the dev will get screwed by Reddit. If I were a dev or doing some business, I wouldn’t touch Reddit with a very long stick. It’s like poking a huge dung, you can only get a swarm of flies.

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          They certainly will be screwed somehow, at some point. If they give this little warning. I doubt Reddit will disclose changes quick enough for there not to be an eventual case of a huge bill randomly, and many “oh shit” moments for the developer

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    I was an Infinity user but I can’t help but feel this is the wrong move. After all Reddit has done to them they just set up a way to siphon miney straight to them for the devs’ hard work?

    Why?

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      Infinity is open source. You can change the key and user agent (and one more field, but it escapes me at the moment), compile your own APK, and continue using it for free.

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    A number of devs talked about the pricing and the consensus seems to be that the fee applied to keep the apps afloat would need to be pretty high and they don’t see how it can be sustainable.

    I wonder how much Infinity is planning on asking and I doubt its user base will be so keen on paying that much.

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      Yeah like $5 a month for more casual users. And people paying for apps tend to use them more. I think Apollo’s calculations were like $10-12/mo for higher end users? Anything over $5/mo is probably a no-go so I wonder if it’ll be viable.

      And if Infinity’s userbase makes $5/mo viable, I wonder if they’ll get flocks of users from other apps and if that’ll make it non-viable with high-traffic users.

      Or maybe they’ll go with a post-paid plan where you pay by usage? That seems iffy.

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        Keep in mind too, that even with the paid API usage to the best of my knowledge the 3PA still will not have NSFW/porn content in the feed. How many people are going to be willing to spend $5-10/mo while also having reduced content?

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        Which is nuts. I was Apollo Ultra, and that was $10/year.

        I honestly never looked into Reddit premium until all the API drama and was shocked it is $50/year, while only offering a fraction of what Apollo offered. Crazy pricing.

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      The other weird part is, I’m sure a lot of Lemmy users would be more than happy to donate much more to a good cause than an average Google Store app user who can ask for refund at any time and then leave 1 star.

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      It would be cool if it gave the option to pay more per month as a donation. That would allow wealthy users to help lower the cost for less wealthy users

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    I was really hoping to see an “Infinity for Lemmy” app. Oh well; Jerboa it is I guess.

    Edit: spelling

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        I need to second this one! Tried some of the apps that came out in the past couple of weeks/days and Liftoff is the one I stuck with. The button at the top where you can switch to different instances with a single tap actually made me better understand the whole way Fediverse works. Now I switch between Beehaw, Lemmy world and some of the more obscure ones super simple (I am sure one could do this with other apps also but with Liftoff it just clicked for me).

        My homescreen is still littered with a lot of the same stuff because a lot of instances have similar stuff on them but this is the first time I have something resembling control over the content I am reading in the Fediverse.

        (still mourning the loss of RIF and it’s simple and incredible easy to use interface. I truly hope RIF’s dev makes an app for Lemmy!)

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    Image Transcription: Text and Image


    [Screenshot of the Infinity app for Reddit. A pop-up notification is on the bottom of the screen.]

    Important Notice Regarding Reddit API Changes

    Starting from July 1st, 2023, Reddit API will be pay-per-use for 3rd-party clients, which include Infinity for Reddit. The announcement from Reddit can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/145bram/addressing_the_community_about_changes_to_our_api

    In order to survive this change, Infinity will become a subscription-only app after July 1st. You can learn more about the changes in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Infinity_For_Reddit/comments/147bhsg/the_future_of_infinity

    It’s required for you to update Infinity after July 1st so that you will get the new version with subscription options. None of the previous versions (including this one) will work after July 1st. But due to a tight timeline Reddit gave, the update may not be available immediately on July 1st since it requires proper testing. Thank you for your understanding!


    I’m a human volunteer content transcriber and you could be too!

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    The apps for lemmy have good potential once the bugs are resolved, but in terms of UI design, nothing beats Infinty imo

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    Wow, not even Sync dared to charge a subscription adjusted to the new API price. I wonder how much Infinity’s going to charge.

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      A subscription to what would now be a lesser product since you can’t access NAFW content. The whole thing is sad. I deleted Sync the other day after using it for like 10 years.

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        Yeah, I feel bad for the developers that are trying to make it work, but I don’t think it’s gonna fly. Sync developer already moved to work on a Lemmy app.

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          Yeah, I bought the $30 support Sync bundle a while ago, and I will buy another one to support him, especially if it supports Kbin.

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    I’m sure Reddit has figured out how much to charge to ensure they get the money they would get for premium one way or another. They aren’t getting anything out of me.

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    That would be the client I used - it’s a shame they’re being pushed to this.

    Once that app goes subscription, I’ll run a purge on my account and drop in a GDPR request invoking my right to be deleted.

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      If by purge you mean power delete suite, it (and others like it) won’t work after the 1st.

      Also I don’t know how true it is, but apparently it costs them a handful of money to comply to GDPR requests for data recovery. So maybe do that and then delete.

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        If I understand it correctly, Power Delete Suite should work just fine, since it’s using the logged in user’s API access. It will just get hit by the “free tier” rate limiting, but that only should mean it will take longer to do it’s thing.

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    I love Infinity but I deleted the app the instant I read that, I was gonna wait until July 1st to see if something changes, but damn

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    Even if they setup a subscription model, the api is not going to give them access to any nsfw content. Who will pay for a subscription to not be able to see any nsfw stuff, while they can get it for free on the Reddit app?

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      A least $15 a month.

      Non power users probably wont pay, and any lower and they’ll definitely lose money.

      I don’t see how paying more than Netflix will do anything other than kill that app.

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            That’s the real issue. I would have gladly paid Apollo $5-$10 a month considering how much I used the app and loved it but the fact that so much of it doesn’t go to the developer because Reddit wants to charge 27x more for 3rd party users is ridiculous.

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              Reddit fully intends to kill third party apps slowly while milking their dying bodies for profit

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      I only read from the Apollo guy, that the amount of requests the users of his app make, would get him to pay reddit 20 million a year. So, the more popular your 3rd party app is, the more they would have to pay Reddit.

      The one i use, Sync for Reddit, is also dying before the 1st of July arrives. From there on, the new prices apply.

      Reddits motivation for this, is to get paid for API access by companies like ChatGPT. They suck reddits content, our posts, in order to feed the AI with content. I assume they do it big style and Reddit wants to cash in for this.

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        Reddits motivation for this, is to get paid for API access by companies like ChatGPT. They suck reddits content, our posts, in order to feed the AI with content. I assume they do it big style and Reddit wants to cash in for this.

        That’s not their only motivation otherwise they’d be charging only the companies like chatgpt for access

        They’re charging one of the third party apps $20 million for api access