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    2 months ago

    To be more precise, fuck the current Russian government. Its not like all Russians are evil, they just happen to be born in a country with oppressive governments for the past… 2000 years or so?

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        2 months ago

        You mean like the Russian elections where really 80+% votes for Putin and totally not because they are standing next to a window? Uh huh, sure, uh huh

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        2 months ago

        Like 20% of the population will always support whoever is in power, another 10% will unless everyone is actively dying where they live, and then 30%-40% don’t care enough about politics to do wrongspeak. I don’t know what poll you’re looking at, but any additional percent is probably related to who’s doing the polling. Maybe 2% is there that actually supports it out of genuine independent thought, and even that I doubt because it’s just an objectively stupid war.

        TL;DR we’re all just humans, and your countrymen would too in the same situation.

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      2 months ago

      Have you seen russian first aid? (Nsfl)

      Russians are, lets say unique. Always has been. There are attitudes in the Russian population that are cultural conflicting with peaceful societies. Dont excuse this campaign by blaming it on one individual. He has support.

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        2 months ago

        Sorry, I call bs on that.

        Take what you write and change “Russians” for “Jews”, add in some video of a single Jewish person doing something horrible, and tadaaaaahhh, the propaganda writes itself. Want to repeat that with gays, perhaps? Or Blacks? No? Heo about Palestinians?

        What you’re doing right now, demonizing an entire population because of its leadership, is the same racist shit that had been used for centuries to get rid of the unlikables, the unwanted. Its cheap, its ugly, it’s sad.

        Don’t do this, please.

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          2 months ago

          People might pick a nit about the other two, but this is literally what anti-Palestianian comments look like right now. Just swap in October 7 footage or something.

          The conclusion is always the same, and pretty heavily ironic in that case given the origins of Israel itself.

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            2 months ago

            Oh I know. I was more talking in relation to what the guy above said. Just another example

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            2 months ago

            You quite literally and explicitly judge 150 million people using only a video of a single psychotic soldier and then you call me brainwashed.

            Right.

            I’ll call you racist and sociopathic and still have more evidence for that than you do formyour claim.

            Stop judging an entire people for the shitty actions of a few, you nazi

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      I mean, past 1800 AD or so they were all degrees of shit everywhere agriculturalised. I don’t have any reason to expect Feodor I was noticeably worse than Elizabeth I.

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          Hmm. It had mostly died out in England by her time, apparently, which is interesting. It wasn’t formally abolished until 1925, but obviously was in practice.

          Elizabeth was the first pre-modern English monarch I thought of, but she was also one of the most repressive from what I’ve heard. She was also the first to adopt a policy of genocidal brutality in Ireland. Feodor… was apparently sickly and possibly intellectually disabled. I wonder if life was easier or harder at the time than it had been under the princes.