This is no way disregards the difficulty of living with an actually severe case of ADHD but is not what most of these people are dealing with.
EDIT: many seem to have misunderstood what I mean by this. I’m not saying these people are only claiming to have ADHD to use it as an excuse. What I mean, is that they may very well do have, and they’re using it as an excuse. Mostly to themselves.
You can have ADHD and still use it as an excuse for not getting things done. It may be a contributing factor but not the entire reason. It’s not binary, there are more and less severe cases of it.
I don’t think you have a strong understanding of ADHD.
I do think you’re looking at the outsized influence of a very tiny subset young influencers that are making ADHD content.
Even if it were the case that people are using the “excuse” to be lazy, what do you think that has to do with the “you must constantly produce to be a contributing member of society” outlook on labor in latestage capitalism. Or how this could be the youth’s response to feeling undervalued and under compensated for their labor.
Here’s a source that’s guaranteed to be milquetoast enough for you to believe https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/06/03/inflation-hit-gen-z-hardest/73901354007/
A large number of people are using it as an excuse. I don’t see how this in any way refutes my claim. I think you’re arguing against a point I haven’t made.
You sound like someone with ADHD who has been made feel inadequate, told they don’t have it, and are continuing the cycle of shaming for something outside your control.
Making this about me doesn’t refute my claim either.
I don’t believe in free will, thus nothing is under my control. I still try and get stuff done according to my best abilities despite my struggles. Telling a fat person that it’s about their genes and there’s nothing they can do about it is not true nor helpful.
Your claims don’t need to be refuted. They manage that fine on their own by being patent nonsense.
I see you are getting a lot of flack but this point I think can be better understood if they think of the classic story about someone who gets messed up in an accident and does not have the will to do physical therapy because they tell themselves they just can’t do it. I do think you will get that with things like this. Still the answer is not necessarily to kick the person out of the wheelchair although in the movies with that trope you do see that.
I think people want simple explanations for the world around them but more often than not the truth is not simple. A person without ADHD can suffer from poor self-discipline. I don’t see any reason why someone with ADHD couldn’t. It doesn’t make them immune to the other personality quirks that people commonly have. I personally just don’t think that a diagnosis gives anyone the excuse to stop trying. Play with the cards you’ve been dealt.
Even in this thread there are gatekeepers implying that because I’m not a completely dysfunctional wreck myself I must therefor not have ADHD.
yeah I was trying to help thornyinsight buy expanding on the excuse angle. Something can limit someone but they can also use that limit to sorta accept being stopped when actually they are being slowed.