Work reform are liberals who don’t want a new economic system. For example they want a higher minimum wage, with wage labor still existing. Maybe they’re a little bit of the latter, when it’s not too impolite.
Yup, they want to live in fantasy land where they benefit from other people’s work, but do none themselves. They’re still children, but most of them will eventually grow up.
The rest will become communists, which is something I’ve been seeing a lot of on Lemmy.
Yeah the 40+ hours of manual labor I do producing 3 $25,000 machines in a week while being paid $1000 is totally not work at all.
Critiquing a system of exploitation is only possible if one is lazy and worthless, not something that typically and historically comes from those most oppressed under a given system.
Refusal to blindly submit to coercive hierarchies is a sign of immaturity, while blind obedience to that system makes you a real man. Only people who blindly accept their and the exploitation of their friends and family are adults.
I love to sit around every once in a while, nothing wrong with that. Sometimes I sit in quiet contemplation for days at a time, other times I just go golfing or fishing or take a vacation to Bora Bora to sit on the beach and drink. If you want to do these things it’s not hard, start a successful business or make a smart real estate investment!
Anti work isn’t “I don’t want to work”. It’s “I don’t agree with capitalist employment”. The antiwork movement WANTS to work, they just don’t want it to be a prerequisite for a comfortable life.
Also, the OP is not against work. Again, they are against NEEDING to work; the coercive relationships in place that force us to work or else be stricken with poverty.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live without working. I already do this as a landlord and a business owner/investor. Maybe when you grow up you will be successful like me and understand the virtues of not grinding away all day to make somebody else rich, instead, let other people make you rich.
Good lord this community is cringe most of the time.
I don’t get all the people who are here that clearly aren’t anti-work.
like why are they here? Isn’t this a community for anti work and not against it?
IMHO there’s two main groups
“Wage labor is inherently unfair, we need to build a new economic system.”
“fuck work amirite guys?”
those groups definitely over lap though.
Significantly though? You can find many groups with an overlap that doesn’t really mean anything.
In this case, I am in the group that over laps which is why I mentioned it.
Same here, I think both venting and discussion of solutions are helpful.
Totally agree.
The former moved to “workreform”, at least on Reddit. The latter group are the dog walkers that stayed put.
Work reform are liberals who don’t want a new economic system. For example they want a higher minimum wage, with wage labor still existing. Maybe they’re a little bit of the latter, when it’s not too impolite.
Yup, they want to live in fantasy land where they benefit from other people’s work, but do none themselves. They’re still children, but most of them will eventually grow up.
The rest will become communists, which is something I’ve been seeing a lot of on Lemmy.
Let’s not forget that communists do work. Not saying you said otherwise, just a reminder.
Someone should tell the wannabe communists that they’d still have to work.
Who let the boomers in here? Why are we talking about communists?
Yeah the 40+ hours of manual labor I do producing 3 $25,000 machines in a week while being paid $1000 is totally not work at all.
Critiquing a system of exploitation is only possible if one is lazy and worthless, not something that typically and historically comes from those most oppressed under a given system.
Refusal to blindly submit to coercive hierarchies is a sign of immaturity, while blind obedience to that system makes you a real man. Only people who blindly accept their and the exploitation of their friends and family are adults.
What’s the plan then?
Complete strawman. No one wants to sit around and do nothing.
I love to sit around every once in a while, nothing wrong with that. Sometimes I sit in quiet contemplation for days at a time, other times I just go golfing or fishing or take a vacation to Bora Bora to sit on the beach and drink. If you want to do these things it’s not hard, start a successful business or make a smart real estate investment!
Exactly!
Nice trolling
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That doesn’t sound like doing nothing ;)
Strawman? You either want to work or you don’t. Which one is it?
Of course I want to work. Saying people just don’t want to work is absurd.
I’m glad you understand the problem
Your assumption that the antiwork movement is just made of lazy assholes who don’t wanna do anything? Yeah, that’s a problem.
It’s not an assumption. It’s literally in the name. It’s literally the entire content of OP’s submission. Where do you think you are?
Anti work isn’t “I don’t want to work”. It’s “I don’t agree with capitalist employment”. The antiwork movement WANTS to work, they just don’t want it to be a prerequisite for a comfortable life.
Also, the OP is not against work. Again, they are against NEEDING to work; the coercive relationships in place that force us to work or else be stricken with poverty.
You obviously don’t have the slightest idea what communism is
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to live without working. I already do this as a landlord and a business owner/investor. Maybe when you grow up you will be successful like me and understand the virtues of not grinding away all day to make somebody else rich, instead, let other people make you rich.
Or you could try reading what was actually said properly, rather than making up something different that wasn’t said by anyone except you.
So they will stay children forever because that is what a communist is someone who is emotionally stunted
So spot on, dude.