In a surprise press briefing appearance on Friday afternoon, President Joe Biden made concerted efforts to link Kamala Harris to the work of the White House.

Now, she was a major player in everything we’ve done, including passage of legislation which we were told we could never pass. And so she’s been, and her, her staff is interlocked with mine in terms of all the things we’re doing,

For everyone that said Harris was only VP and had no voice in Gaza and none of it was her decision.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
    12·
    25 days ago

    Hold on, did you think when I said “one is super pro-genocide” I was talking about Biden?

    No, I thought you were talking about Trump. I don’t see you bashing him, just people who express displeasure at genocide.

    Your options are that or Harris. My play is to vote Harris and then remain angry as she doesn’t take as hard of a line as I would want, assuming she actually makes it into office. What’s your play?

    Same. That doesn’t mean I have to go around calling anyone who isn’t 100% on board with genocide a fucking trumper.

    I’m asking this in good faith, not just to stir up shit and argue online.

    And then you immediately do this:

    Not voting, voting third party, or voting for Trump will definitely not stop the genocide.

    And I have never advocated for any of these. Just because you immediately assume that anyone who has a problem with genocide is a trumper, that doesn’t make it the case.

    So what are we to do?

    I know! We should apply no pressure whatsoever to the Democratic Party or their candidate. That way, if Harris beats Trump while running on not changing a thing about US foreign policy as it pertains to the Gaza genocide, she can interpret our restrained tacit approval as a mandate from the people to continue supporting genocide.

    Or we can register our disapproval, but you’ll assume that’s just trump support in all cases.

    • rigatti@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      25 days ago

      It’s just weird to me that when this topic comes up, y’all never throw out the comparison with Trump’s stance on the issue. It’s always focused solely on Biden/Harris. Anyway, have a good day and for the love of god vote for Harris.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        25 days ago

        It’s just weird to me that when this topic comes up, y’all never throw out the comparison with Trump’s stance on the issue. It’s always focused solely on Biden/Harris.

        When it comes up, it’s usually in the context of Biden/Harris. Trump is a giant piece of shit and I don’t want him to be president. Netanyahu is also a giant piece of shit and we shouldn’t be doing what he wants. When people bring up legitimate concerns about a literal fucking genocide and the response is “buh whubbut trump?” it sends the message that Democrats are completely uninterested in ever changing their unconscionable policy regarding Netanyahu’s genocide and just want the enforced silence of any dissent.

        Anyway, have a good day and for the love of god vote for Harris.

        Already intend to, but since you are incapable of believing that someone can be outspoken about genocide without being a Trump supporter, you’ll never believe me.

        • rigatti@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          25 days ago

          No, I believe you. We don’t have to continue being impolite just because we’re on the internet.

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
            12·
            25 days ago

            Accusing people of being trumpers because they have a problem with genocide is truly the height of politeness.

            • rigatti@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              25 days ago

              I don’t think you’re a Trumper after you explained yourself more thoroughly. There are plenty of trolls and Trumpers out there posting articles like this to try to reduce Dem turnout in November. Without any context, this stuff looks like Trumping. Does that make sense?