Who’s winning POTUS? Will it be called on election night or drawn out? Congress? Etc

  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
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    56 minutes ago

    Before all ballots are counted, Trump declares himself a winner and starts sounding the alarm about illegitimate counts. Trump then contests battleground states and has enough alternate electors that the final score gets escalated to the Supreme Court, who grants Trump the win while they “figure it all out”. They declare widespread “issues” with the election and localized protests ensue. Trump declares martial law and tells the police to “be tough”. Several injuries and deaths set more riots and protests. Trump orders the national guard to help with crowd control. An overzealous soldier opens with live fire on the crowd, killing several due to stampedes and general chaos.

    Trump blames chaos on Democrats and claims illegal immigrants were behind the violence, begins his mass deportation exercise. Numerous non immigrants are rounded up “as sympathizers” and taken to holding facilities in Texas and several other border states where they are held indefinitely without trial.

    Trump creates a tip line to report “illegal aliens” and people start reporting their neighbours and anyone else they find “suspicious”. People are always keeping their eyes out and keeping their lives to themselves out of fear they may be reported.

    Trump and his regime create a committee to oversee and overhaul elections “due to all that bad corruption” and suggests a moratorium on elections until “they figure it out”.

    They don’t ever figure it out.

  • piyuv@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    My rational side wants to see Harris win, but the anarchist in me wants to see Trump win, just to see what would happen. Not living in the US, obviously.

    Trump winning could be a disaster for the whole world since US is such a major player in basically everything, but my anarchist side does not listen.

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      3 hours ago

      Would U.S.A. foreign policy be drastically affected by who becomes the president?
      As a non-American, I think it’d have more impact on the people of the U.S.A and maybe immediate neighbours like Mexico.

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        I don’t know, to quote someone I read here: “The world shits when the US farts”

        US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)

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          1 hour ago

          US electing an authoritarian might encourage authoritarians all around the world (even more)

          That maybe a consequence but US foreign policy might improve or remain unchanged under Trump.

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      4 hours ago

      As a non-American, this. And I honestly don’t understand why so many people in our neck of the woods aren’t more concerned about this. You guys are such a heavy hitter from a socio-economical standpoint, that anything which goes down in your country will inevitably affect everyone else.

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 hours ago

    Right now I think Harris is more likely to win than Trump, but it would also not be an enormous surprise if Trump wins.

  • lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    We won’t have a clear winner. No matter which candidate “wins”, there will be widespread allegations of voter fraud. There will be protests. Biden will declare a national emergency. What happens after that? I don’t know. But I am prepared for major social unrest.

    A large number of people from both major parties are absolutely unwilling to accept a win by the opposing candidate. I’ve never seen the country so divided.

    • Fixbeat@lemmy.ml
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      I hope you are right about the left not accepting a Trump win. I don’t even know why he’s a legitimate candidate with the whole insurrection thing. Openly gaming the election? Felonies? I don’t think the US can survive four more years of this guy, so I think the time for passively accepting his shenanigans is over.

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    11 hours ago

    I’m in a swing state with an abortion measure on the ballot, and while all the polls claim it’s close, I’m not really sure they are properly accounting for the number of voters that have been activated by the possibility of enshrining pro-choice into the state constitution.

    These polling strategies are complex and a lot of thought goes into them, but they rarely can account for uncommon circumstances that increase voter turnout in local or state elections and how that will effect the national election.

    While this is entirely personal reexperience bias, I also wonder how effective these polls are at reaching a representative survey group. I know at least on my phone basically all survey calls and texts go to spam and I wonder if older, more conservative voters are getting overrepresented due to their likelihood of not having those kinds of spam filters in place.

    • IHave69XiBucks@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 hours ago

      Polsters do not call random people. They will call as many people under 30 as they have to to get a representative sample. They have quotas for different parties, age groups, races, etc. And purposefully target the ones they want and verify with the person that demographic info is right while doing the questions. Atleast good scientific polls will do this. Not all polls are created equal.

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    11 hours ago

    Everyone worth less than 8 figures will lose.

    Little else will change. Regardless of figurehead.

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    12 hours ago

    I’m almost positive Trump wins with how close all the swing states are now and how he’s improving in polling (what the actual fuck people?!) the closer we get to the election.

    I’m also almost positive we will not know for sure on election night as I absolutely expect R controlled states to drag their feet and declare “irregularities” that they need to investigate if they don’t like the way things are going.

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      5 hours ago

      I hope it will not be Florida of 2000 election all over again, but in a massive scale.

      It’s insane, Gore won by several thousand votes, if not tens of thousands.

  • P_P@lemm.ee
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    11 hours ago

    Harris wins comfortably. Lots of lawsuits. Even more violence.

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    34 minutes ago

    Whoever wins … the country will fight about the result for the next four years and completely obscure any reasonable debate or conversation about anything of importance like inflation, wealth inequality, war, the military industrial complex or creeping fascism.

    If America doesn’t get its act together during this election … it’s just taking another step towards becoming a failed state and will break apart within the next decade or two. But it won’t be a war or anything too dramatic … it will just look and sound like a never ending slapfest between shouting children and crying babies who threaten each other but never actually do anything except leave the room with all their toys.