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Electric rage.
The Dutch have the best traffic rules and laws giving the advantages to the bicyclists. Driving in and out of traffic circle is a neck breaking experience.
Tesla drivers have been overtaking (or at least rising to the level of) BMW drivers as the worst on the road.
Around here the worst drivers are mostly larger cars. Broncos, wagoneer, range rovers, etc. Tesla drivers sometimes try to get zippy, same as BMW sefan drivers, etc. But the larger car drivers are aggressive af, tailing you reeeeeeeal close for however long it takes before they can whip around you.
I don’t agree. In fact, the Tesla drivers around me are some of the better drivers. I still hate Tesla though.
That has not been my experience at all. I guess we just need more data.
Every Tesla driver I’ve seen in traffic has driven like they expect the car to drive itself if they fuck up. I would bet money that most people who got a Tesla want the self-driving features because they can’t fucking drive.
Just last week I was almost run over by a silver honda civic while trying to use the crosswalk, said civic driver proceeded to honk and and yell at me for being in the way. Somehow, that’s the second time I’ve almost been almost run over and then honked at by someone in a silver honda civic.
I could have written the exact same paragraph even though I live on the other side of the planet. It’s crazy how universal this shit seems to be.
That ad at though at the end. 🤏
Anybody have experience adding a dashcam to their bike? I wonder if documenting these cases could help start change
There’s an app for that - it’s called, succinctly, “dashcam for your bike”. They sell clip-on phone holders for your bike and do some image stabilization in the video they record, and have integration so you can report people/items blocking the bike lane to the local infrastructure. Would recommend.
I can only imagine the invisible typewriter used by my city when a report comes in like that.
Forwarded directly to the “we’ll get right on that” department
Heh, full disclosure: I was in a startup program with the dude who makes it so I’m def biased, but in Pittsburgh they put bollards on a road to establish separation for the bike lane with credit to the reports from the app giving them historical tracking on how prevalent it was. So yeah, reports may not send out someone posthaste, but they can improve the situation for sure.
That works. Also, having the bike lane on an elevated level above car traffic works well.
Go on ‘The Youtube’, there are thousands of videos of bicyclists with dash cams in hairy situations.
The BMW comes with the special edition highway code has that extra rule at the end.
I didn’t think it was true until I was a passenger in one and the driver - whom I previously thought to be a semi-sane human - missed the motorway junction that we wanted; this is no problem at all for BMW, it has hazards and a reversing gear . . . genius!
BMW lost any enthusiasm from me when they introduced subscription car features. I think they did it before anyone else.
Now I’m happy to think of BMW as full-throated supporters of the German Reich.
Treating bikers poorly is not just a U.S. thing, I’ve seen it the EU too, pretty nasty interactions. Drivers should be heavily fined for endangering people in more vulnerable situations.
Edit multiple people saying losing driving privileges, I think it usually works that way for repeat offenders. If someone does it once and the fine deters them then mission accomplished
If the only consequence of breaking the law is a fine, then it’s legal for the rich to do it. If a person can not be trusted to drive safely, they shouldn’t be allowed to drive.
Fined? They shouldn’t have the privilege of driving.
Then they will just drive without a driving license like sovcits and police just won’t bother pulling them over.
nta, the biker was going too slowly unless they were on a step hill, bikes only deserve respect when they are going at least 35 kmh
As someone who does enjoy cars, fuck BMW owners, they are always the stupidest, angriest, pettiest drivers on the road. I wouldn’t invite one to my wedding.
I’m just saying this because yesterday I drove behind a BMW M5 driver who was the exact opposite of an aggressive driver. They were so cautious and considerate of others around them I actually took notice. Broke my world for a moment, I expected them to be a jerk but nope. It was a welcomed weird.
I divorced one and they are now with another BMW driver.
Oh no they teamed up! Twice the terror!
I know this is fuckcars, but that’s not even a car thing - it’s a human thing, and all the worse for it:-(.
The thing is, if you both were on a bike, the interaction would have so much less potential to have become accidentally deadly:-).
cars bring out the worst in people.
Yup. Ironically I think it’s that feeling of pseudoanonymity that does it, which seems backed up by how people often behave online. It allows someone’s true colors to come out, whatever they may be.
Nah for me it’s the fact that people act like cars aren’t death machines. Like I get all the anti car arguments and agree with the vast majority of them except for one big one.
Get out of the way. You know cars are dangerous so get out of the way. Even if it’s inconvenient. You will lose that fight every single time so why even start it in the first place?
People are scared of plane crashes (especially with Boeing involved - hey-oh!), but they forget: BY FAR the most dangerous portion of every flight is the drive to and from the airport (assuming those are involved).
The people who really need to acknowledge that cars can be death machines are the people driving them.
I mean agreed but again everyone else needs to treat them as such as well.
You can’t call it a death machine and then act like it’s just a slight inconvenience. That’s how you die.
Then how come all the toxic people on Lemmy are the sorts that have established reputations and an identity?
Wait wait wait wait wait - what is this, toxicity on… Lemmy?! That’s unpossible!
I think cars and car culture are inextricably linked to this kind of behavior, and it gets worse with bigger cars. People definitely can ride bikes like assholes but it’s less common-something about having zero barriers between a person and the world makes them less susceptible to acting like the world isn’t there.
Driving around in a climate controlled cockpit with surround stereo, splashing rain and mud on all those who they pass by, while laughing at “the poors” who cannot afford to drive or perhaps soon helicopter around everywhere. It definitely has an effect - bc Power Corrupts.
But it’s not solely their fault - the fault is also (or even… primarily?) ours for voting in such a way that so much space is dedicated to these rich assholes, while leaving no room for ourselves.
Though also, I bet this asshole would have been just as douchy if both sides of the conflict here had been walking. So the car made the situation so much worse, rather than creating it.
Back in the day they wanted cops to appear more friendly so they would drive convertibles. Not having a hard cabin between them and their watch “made them more approachable”.
Whereas nowadays they are bulletproof!
Yeah, some drivers seem to DGAG about the rules. Like I’m cycling straight and you’re turning, asshole, honk whatever you want. [Note: applicable to Russia, your experiences may vary]
This is normal day for a bmw driver.
