Boomers to me in my teens: “Don’t believe anything on the internet, find actual trust worthy verifiable sources.”
Boomers to me in my 30’s: “Don’t trust the LameStream media! I found this guy on Facebook who made a real compelling video about how all Hollywood stars are transgender!”
A real compelling video about how all Hollywood stars are transgender!
Well, that’s news to me.
I know this is probably exaggerated for comedic purposes, but I’d like to see a video that actually argues that because it sounds really funny. In a completely unhinged way, of course.
I actually used that example because some old guy at a thrift store said it to me. There are actually videos of people comparing unflattering photos of celebrities saying they have an Adam’s apple, or “too broad of shoulders to be a woman”. I didn’t believe it either, but it was a big thing in small circles called transvestigation. I don’t know if it’s still being spread anymore though.
Yeah there was a whole movement back in 2008 that tried really hard to prove that Michelle Obama is a man. It’s really weird even by conspiracy standards.
It’s not so weird, it’s just that right-wingers have no imagination, and so many of their smears are of the I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I variety. (ETA: See also, the “Joe Biden has dementia” thing.) The “Michelle Obama is a man” thing came about because a lot of people used to joke that Ann Coulter is a trans-woman because of her prominent Adam’s apple. (Which she really does have.)
I’m pretty sure they were just being homophobic.
They certainly were, and it’s possible the Michelle Obama thing came from nowhere, but it came about so soon after the Ann Coulter thing, I think it was reaction. Especially since right-wing talking points have so often echoed criticism and jokes about them.
People who know the truth already know that Hollywood stars can’t be trans, because they’re not real. Hollywood stars don’t exist, they’re actually all just crises actors pretending to be Hollywood stars.
Hollywood stars are all… actors? And their job is to pretend to be someone else?
I think you might be onto something here.
It’s actors all the way down.
You could be talking to one of these “actors” right now!
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It’s because they don’t have the skills to assess content critically enough to avoid being taken in by nonsense and projected that onto younger people. From their perspective somehow it’s just ok now to expose yourself to media you can’t safely navigate. From the younger perspective we were being told we mustn’t consume media we had the skillset to safely navigate.
I used to be conservative up to my mid 20s because I didn’t know enough about the world and all I had was my parents’ influence.
Now in my mid 40s I’m as progressive as they come, and I believe there are absolutely no redeeming qualities of being a “conservative” and it’s ruining society.
Just because the world is shitty the way it is, it doesn’t mean that it has to stay that way.
And just because you personally benefits from the injustice of the broken system, it doesn’t mean you shouldn’t oppose it.
That’s the part of the movie’s message I feel that people tend to miss.
Most people just don’t care enough to do anything about injustice, or don’t think about it at all. It’s infuriating to see how apathetic and irresponsible people can be. Just look at the meat industry. People could stop, but they don’t. They only care that their virtue is signalled and that the suffering is far enough detached and out of sight so that they don’t have to face it and actually self-reflect on their cognitive dissonance or flaws. What’s worse is that eating meat is often culturally engrained, and so similar to religious indoctrination, even harder to quit. All this, done by years of lobbying of the meat industry and other unethical practices. These problems of injustice are deep-rooted in our society, and entitlement/lack of empathy. The arguments used for factory farming these days are the same slavers used in the past, and even now it is just transferred elsewhere so that people can be exploited all for a cheaper product to consume.
Things get even sadder when you realise that all the injustice in the world is for nothing but ego or extreme selfishness. I honestly think it’s a large reason people still believe in religion. When you face the injustice in the world and become aware of it, you either have to ignore it/find a way to cope or actually do something. As long as people remain ignorant, uneducated and don’t have empathy for others, this will continue.
The problem here is that you’re attributing to apathy what should be attributed to the shit show people are dealing with already. Life is so grand, that we need 2 full-time working parents to get by, and barely keep head above the water. People aren’t apathetic, they’re drowning. That’s the whole purpose behind it. If people are too busy trying to just stay alive, how are they supposed to also fight for justice?
That’s why the only people who are generally fighting for this justice are those that are middle to upper class with plenty of free time. Because nobody else has the god damn time. They could lose everything they worked for just by joining the fight. The system has been set up that way.
Fight for yourself? Or is that also impossible? People don’t know the power they have together, and the elites won’t give up peacefully. Most western people could do something, they just don’t want to or are ignorant of how they could act. The only real problem is that capitalists who control everything will try to stomp out any organisation of things (such as unions or protests), which is why force and/or non-cooperation is needed.
Did you even read what I said…People can’t fight because they can barely fucking survive.
Just not true though. Anything to not be accountable or responsible, I guess. You would only need max 1% of the population anyway. Most people won’t stand in your way, and if you have food + a place to live you are good enough for the downtime.
Oh you sweet summer child…
What movie?
The one that’s playing in theater right now that I can’t promote because of the strike.
Oh hey, I missed your name. I liked the movie but was disappointed that the Kens were treated with dismissal at the end, told they don’t get representation in the new government, which felt like a squandered opportunity to convey a message of true equality and inclusion. It seemed to me that the message was that inequality is okay, as long as it’s your group benefitting from it. But you’re saying the movie’s message is the exact opposite. Can you clarify why for me please?
It’s more realistic to show that “systematic inequality cannot be overturned overnight even if slight improvements have been made.” Not a fantasy happily-ever-after ending, because that’s how the real world works.
Also, our protagonist actively choosing to refuse to participate in the unfair system at the end despite benefiting from it should have been a clear message that it wasn’t something to be accepted.
I hadn’t considered her refusal to participate as part of the message before, but you’re right! Thanks for sharing that perspective. I had a nagging feeling that I was missing something, and that was it. Excellent job taking such a silly idea and using it to share a serious message, all wrapped up in goofy antics and fun.
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Millenials, and presumably gen z, are getting less conservative with age, a complete reversal of the traditional trend. We’re also the first generation that’s poorer than our parents.
They kept the money flowing in the post-war economy, and kept propping it up with increasing globalisation, pushing the poverty onto poorer nations, but it looks like that’s stopped working and now the economy is cannibalising its own young.
I hope this sparks revolution, and I see our job right now as building the structures that will make a better world afterwards.
I think it’s less that people get more conservative as they age and more that they get more conservative as they get wealthier. Previous generations typically could get wealthier as they get older, but younger generations are being screwed over, hence the reversal.
I had more money in my savings account at 18 and made more money per hour than I have in savings and make per hour now in my 30s. I’m also driving the same car, the car I bought with my own money from working when I was 17, now that I think about it, because I can’t afford a nicer one. I literally have nothing to conserve, I own nothing, nothing was ever given to me, and it’s all being taken from me.
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AI is going to fuck it all up and I can’t wait.
My dad gave me that “if you’re not liberal in your youth you have no heart, if you’re not conservative as you age then you have no brain” nonsense and here I am, brainless.
In your dad’s defense: being that conservatism is maintaining the status quo, I’d probably be conservative as fuck if I got to reap the benefits of the old economy and ride into the sunset with a pension. I mean, shit: I wouldn’t want to change anything
What we’ve inherited fucking sucks. Also, it’s kind of gross how racist our parents were
It’s really quite simple; all of the wealth has gone to executives and shareholders.
Regular working people have been fucked.
Becoming more conservative is a result of having amassed a fortune to protect. No fortune, nothing to conserve.
There are things to conserve beside money and possessions. Culture, institutions, religions, & values are all things that some people wish to conserve (keep the same), that doesn’t necessarily make those people conservatives. There are parts of my culture, and cultural values that are changing, that I wish would remain unchanged, but that doesn’t mean I identify as conservative or with conservatives.
To some extent I think you are preserving culture. It’s only conservative if you want to keep it all for yourself.
What I find funny about right wingers trying to say that people will become more right-leaning as they get older is that the quote that they’re citing seems to point to the idea that the left-wing person’s ideas aren’t going to change and that they’ll continue to hold the same beliefs.
“It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea.”
Seems to imply that it means you’ll get stuck in your ways and continue to hold left-leaning views, the exact opposite of what the boomers are saying, it’s based on an older version of the word conservative, meaning to keep things as they are. Ironic that they’re citing it as a reason for why they think people will become like them when it seems to point to the opposite, that they’ll stay the same and continue to hold left-wing views.
Of coarse the idea that someone will stay the same or change in some predictable way is a generalization, people grow and change in different ways depending on the individual, same applies for getting stuck in said ways.
It’s not that young progressives will change their views as they age, their views will stay roughly the same, it’s just that newer more progressive ideas will come from the next generation.
Ideals that seem conservative by today’s standards were once radically progressive at one stage.
My brother (staunch conservative) once paraphrased Churchill to me: “Anyone who is a conservative when they’re young is heartless; anyone who’s a liberal when they’re old is brainless.”
Now that 50 is just over the horizon for me, I say that someone who voted for Donald Trump thinking I’m brainless is a compliment. Also, forgive student debt, give us universal healthcare and a universal basic income, fuck the rich, and come the revolution, may each of you reading this get to throw a Molotov at someone who owns a private jet. 💙
And may you also have the privilege to throw a flaming bottle of petrol at the wealthy
Thank you! I hope you have a wonderful weekend, friend.
Fuck yeah
Boomers really are the dumbest, most arrogant and obnoxious people on the planet, huh
If you can’t win, you have to resist.
I don’t think getting older necessarily mean you become conservative. I reckon many people conflate with looking for stability with capital “c” Conservatism. I certainly understand now what one means by looking to settle down. But it would not make me fiscal conservative; become a pro-lifer; religious; or traditional.
It made me fiscally conservative in the sense of “maybe I should save this for little GopherOwl Jr’s college fund not blow it at a nightclub.” It didn’t make me fiscally conservative as in “I don’t care if they starve to death, cut my taxes!!!”
This resonates with me a lot as someone that’s been left of center in FL for the past 27 years. I feel really defeated actually. I’ve typically identified as politically active, but I just feel run-over at this point. I am working on getting approval from my job to leave this state, and I’m 2 out of 3 hurdles done. I can’t fight fascism my entire life, and I feel like I have. I’m tired.
LoL same… I already fled Florida without my work’s approval because they don’t ever really mean it when they ask me to come into office but mostly cause I’m a contractor and they just don’t care as long as they can fire me next economic downturn for them.
I’ve been so beaten down again and again and kept getting back up to show up to protests and political activism since high school and never have I found a community that lasts as a community and neither does it feel like any movement keeps momentum before dying out having done nothing.
We have gone so long without any reasonable transition of power and no real repercussions for ignoring the will of the people and not helping them and I’m tired of people saying it’s pointless to even try.
Sorry. Yeah burnt out too.
Lol I was more conservative as a teenager than I am now.
If you’re conservative when you’re young you have no heart.
If you’re liberal when you’re old you have no money.
Guess why the new generations don’t become conservative with age.
Good times make people selfish; selfish people make bad times…
Yeah it’s a simple as as you get older you want to protect the things you hold important. Money is what most of the older generations value and hold utmost importance too.
Millennials have gotten conservative but it’s over things they think they own like internet social media platforms and Internet content.
You can look at the rise in smaller internet bubbles and infighting of other artists “encroaching” on their territory to see it.
