edit: more official source
https://washingtonpress.com/2023/09/12/attorney-error-trump-eschews-jury-in-manhattan-case/
Why does everyone have to make up these stupid nicknames? Isn’t it enough that she made a mistake? Do you really need to embarrass yourself by inventing these childish nicknames?
Agreed. It always annoyed me. I don’t like these people, but that doesn’t mean I have to sink to some childish level to say so.
They think they’re being edgy like trump by giving these people nicknames
Right? The story itself is better than the name calling.
Better question might be: why is anyone paying attention to anything that continues happening in twatter? Isn’t it only the pond scum that’s left still posting there?
This sounds like something someone named TJA-BADABBA-DO would say. :)
In all seriousness though, I think it’s ironic that a bush league lawyer for a former US president facing nearly 100 felony indictments (so far) that is proud of his dumb ass name calling in a high stakes case forgets something so important. She has already [cost herself and her client trump](Judge Orders Trump and Lawyer to Pay Nearly $1 Million for Bogus Suit https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/politics/trump-clinton-lawsuit-fine.html) personally a million dollars in frivolous lawsuits.
There’s some schadenfreude there, most definitely. Don’t have any pity for these clowns.
I agree though, leave the name calling to those facing felony indictments, it’s on brand for that kind of caliber of a politician.
This is fucking gold. If trump loses all of his NY properties I’m throwing a kegger!
Can I get an invite? I’ll bring the bourbon and some mediocre conversation.
For sure. It’ll be a banger
Atlantic City contractors will be getting sloshed again for sure.
further
Smart lawyers don’t take cases they know they’re likely to lose
or not get paid for
Or, probably the biggest deal for the most prestigious lawyers, ruin their reputation.
Smart lawyers don’t become Trump’s ‘travel companion.’
Smart lawyers are here to get ahead. I’ll take whatever case the client is willing to bankroll, and losers are priced accordingly. I’ve taken on some horrifying clunkers because the client was willing to roll the dice on single digit odds and I had bills to pay, and that’s true for most people in the profession. The lawyer still wins if he can say “the client lost, but he would have lost a lot worse without me.” The lawyer who “never loses” is a Hollywood fiction that only exists in the real world in prosecution quotas (where it’s a measure of prosecutorial discretion) and very narrow areas like patent.
In any event, if you’re working for Donald Trump, you’re not in it for the actual representation. You’re betting on the story. Win or lose, you’re networking with archdemons from now on. As long as you don’t commit any felonies yourself, representing Trump ought to be good for your career. It’s not a guarantee, but if somebody asked me right now if I’d take on Trump for any of his cases, knowing I’m not getting paid by Trump? I’d absolutely do it. Trump isn’t the customer–he’s the product. The customer is–in this case–Fox. It’s like going to an Ivy League school. The point isn’t to get the degree; it’s to meet the people who control the rungs on the mobility ladder. Habba might have fucked up royally by not demanding a jury, but she’s absolutely not stupid for representing Trump.
Wait, what happened on Monday? I apparently missed that story
She’ll be fine. Her sole intent in taking the job was as an audition to land a job at Fox.
Pretty sure she expected not to be paid, there’s speculation on whether or not she forgot on purpose to fuck him legally instead.
Didn’t think of that. It’s possible.
He screws his lawyers over so much that I don’t understand why he’d trust anyone at this point. I assume eventually they’d all be out to get you.
He screws his lawyers over so much
In this case, possibly literally.
oh she better get paid then
I worry this will be a tool to rile up the base even more. “See Trump didn’t get a fair trial because he didn’t even get a jury!! Rigged!!” Of course Fox news won’t tell them that it was their own fault
They would have found something to complain about either way.
And another $5M comes in on the fundraising train.
So dumb questions here. Would this make it easier to get a mistrial due to not getting sufficient representation? Are these new tricks designed to subvert justice with “incompetence” and take advantage of legal loopholes somehow? Occam’s razor indicates the lawyers are just incompetent, which are the only ones that will work for him now.
There’s a level of accountability needed on the client though. You can’t just hire a shitty attorney over and over and keep asking for mistrials.
Trump should know better, has the money for good attorneys, and hires terrible ones.
Good attorneys won’t take him. Sure, he has money; but he’s notorious for not paying his attorneys. He’s screwed so many lawyers over the decades that nobody will work for him anymore because they know that, regardless of what he promises, they’re never getting any money. His lawyers have had to sue him on several occasions to get paid. So the only people who’ll work for him are these fascist bottom-feeders. And Trump probably prefers the quacks because instead of giving him good advice, they’ll tell him what he wants to hear.
Probably. Personally I feel like this same attorney has been called out by judges for incompetency so many times that, at some point, Trump needs to own that he didn’t hire someone else before this, but that’s probably nothing valid to hope for or lean on. It is being speculated by some that maybe this wasn’t an accident, possibly to manipulate the system as you suggest, but I guess we can only watch and see because no one really knows what’s going on behind the scenes.
I read this… thing… and all the while was thinking “there’s going to be a comment about how this is being done on purpose to somehow have a mistrial declared”.
No. Stupid is just stupid.
Never attribute malice to what can be explained by stupidity.
-Hanlon’s Razor
I don’t know, doesn’t that mean he only has to bribe one person instead of many?
more on the judge having had it with them before, they are getting no favors from this guy
at least two more instances of the judge breaking bad on them recently
https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-seeks-delay-new-york-fraud-trial-2023-09-06/
But cant Trump just another judge citing previous rulings bias?
Nope, all those rulings have been for the same case, AFAIK.
edit: he keeps ruling against their delay tactics, requests for extensions, etc
Oh I hope so. I hope orange dude finally get his FO stage
I’m not finding any other sources on this?
Huh?
which part?
What does all of this mean?
It means his attorney is an idiot who forgot to request a jury as required within 15 days in NY, so it will be a bench trial decided entirely by a judge who’s already had it with his shit, and it’s almost guaranteed he will straight lose the case in the worse way due to his attorney’s incompetence.
edit: more on the judge having had it with them before, they are getting no favors from this guy
He’ll appeal on ineffective assistance of counsel.
The Strickland court also noted that judicial evaluation of the attorney’s performance “must be highly deferential.” For example, a convicted defendant who alleges ineffective assistance must identify the specific “acts or omissions of counsel” they believe falls below the objective standard of reasonableness. Additionally, the burden lies with the defendant to prove that they were “harmed by [their] attorney’s conduct” and that there is a “reasonable probability” that the outcome of the criminal proceeding would have been different if not for the attorney’s errors.
Only the very last phrase is what would decide that appeal.
Probably. Also possible the judge will say something like “too bad, I’ve had enough of your bs delays.” Although based on what’s happened so far, the likelihood of a different outcome with this representation is pretty low, if not laughable.
