I want to go into sales because they seem to earn a shit ton of money.

Are sales folks proles? Labor aristocracy?

Would I be a class traitor for selling something and earning, like, 10x more than the artist/engineer/ laborer who makes that thing?

    • Lussy [any]@hexbear.netOP
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      1 year ago

      Not all sales people fit the caricature of some slimy liar.

      Sales is one of the few professions that compensates people’s skills and hard work proportionately. They’re not ceos who manage people like livestock.

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        I think there’s an argument to be made that actively manufacturing a need to consume a product that was previously unnecessary purely to create profit is somewhat manipulative. The things I need usually don’t need to be actively sold to me, on account of how I need them.

      • lmao at dressing up manipulation and deception as “skills” utilizing “hard work”. sales people aren’t compensated for hard work. they are compensated for moving product. that can be extremely easy if one has the skillset of “lacking compunction”.

        just like all cops are bastards, all sales people are all dirtbags. sure, go make that cake. just don’t think anyone else is gonna respect you for it. if they tell you otherwise, they’re selling you something.

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    Screw the class analysis on sales people. I’ll forever hate them cause they always lie to me to sell their crap. Not to mention the instant something doesn’t go according to their script after the sale was made like logistically issues, they start being incredibly rude to the point of literally screaming at me because they already closed the deal

    They’re also super fake and annoying to talk to at work as coworkers

    This makes perfect sense once you see the demographics (overwhelmingly white men) and learn about the job/training/hustle culture

    Their job is to reduce every human interaction to a robotic mindgame to maximize their sales numbers

  • LanyrdSkynrd [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    The vast majority of sales jobs exist to manipulate people into buying something they wouldn’t have otherwise bought. That’s the whole purpose of the job. Otherwise it’s just a pointless bullshit job where what you do doesn’t matter at all. Most people who work bullshit jobs come to hate them. They feel trapped because having a job where you get paid well for doing nothing is supposed to be the dream.

    I think sales tends to make you a worse human being as well. The jobs tend to create a culture where lying and manipulation are not only permitted but praised. Your coworkers will celebrate screwing people over and you’ll absorb their horrid justifications for what they do.

    • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      Yeah, this seems like the correct take. Class has more to do with your relation to labor than your income bracket. We might individually have positive or negative or neutral opinions of salespeople, but their relation to labor is the same as mechanics, or shorehands, or any other occupation traditionally considered working class.