So I think we already know the outlines of the typical criticisms of Breadtube, namely that it’s vaguely-leftist content that focuses on cultural critique and gives a nod to socialist theory here and there but it doesn’t actually achieve anything and it’s just a media-consumption demographic with no moves towards anything that resembles on the ground organising and activism. (Obviously there are a few outliers but as a rule this generally holds true.)
I dipped out of Breadtube years ago for plenty of reasons but I just posted on Lemmygrad criticising the SPD Three Arrows movement which prompted me to have a look at the Breadtuber Three Arrows and they have done exactly the same thing that Contrapoints and a lot of other large figures in this genre have done:
They build up a healthy Patreon base and then their content drops off to like a couple of videos a year, if that, while continuing to draw off a personal salary which rivals that of a full-time worker.
In the past two years Three Arrows has produced 4 videos, amounting to less than 4.5 hours of runtime all up.
That’s staggering for someone who is getting over 60k a year, at the most conservative estimate.
Likewise Contrapoints claimed to be getting 20k a month and she’s putting out like 1-2 videos a year. And there’s plenty of other examples of this too.
Imagine what could be done if people supported their local grassroots organisations instead of paying boatloads of cash for their twice-yearly YouTube treats smh.
Three arrows is like a spd voter who lived in america for three years and comes from Freiburg the erewhon of Germany. Of course hes no comrade. Contrapoints meanwhile only briefly flirted with leftism, when she was on her lowest point financially and during her transition, once she moved into a more financial stable as well as more “cis-perceived” position she ditched leftist thought immediately.
I gotta be honest with you. If I see someone touting the three arrows I treat them with suspicion because they either don’t know their history or, worse yet, they do know their history.
After what the SPD did in the twilight of the Weimar Republic I find it difficult to understand anyone who would proudly use their symbols. This is especially relevant when we’re discussing a German historian, of all people.
Agreed, like how could you live in Germany as a honest leftist and be pro-spd? Like they are reliable anti-worker, even today they are responsible for destroying the living standard of Germanys working class.
There’s a lot about Three Arrows that I’ve never been able to reconcile.
I get that there are good reasons for hiding your power level: you might want to avoid the feds (learn from JT), you might want to avoid being effectively blacklisted by employers (learn from Marxist Paul), you might want to avoid malicious trolls (learn from BayArea415), you might be savvy enough to realise that fascism is on the rise in the western world and you don’t want to find your name on their list. Or you might want to make your stuff as palatable to your audience either to extend the reach of your message or because you’re chasing Patreon bucks. I respect the hustle. But there’s a big difference between playing it down with regards to your political position as a public figure and openly being a comprador.
I might be misremembering here but I reckon that Three Arrows goes in on anti-communism and promotes a message about how communists go “too far”.
For a person who ought to know very well how the SPD half-measures played out historically, that’s an interesting line to take especially when you’re making videos about how the current political situation is rapidly devolving into fascism and how the conditions of today are increasingly mirroring those of the Weimar Republic.
For a person who ought to know how the SPD collaborated with the Nazis and facilitated their rise to power, not to mention the assassination of Liebknecht and Luxemburg, it’s an even more interesting position to take.
As far as I’m aware, the SPD is really just another milquetoast “left-leaning” party (insofar as they aren’t as rightwing as the other major parties) these days so to support them today is another interesting line to take.
I get that the whole schtick of accusing any and every SocDem of killing Rosa is really overplayed, especially if we’re talking about some American who just wants universal healthcare and doesn’t know shit about Rosa Luxemburg, but Three Arrows has always thrown up a lot of red flags for me tbh.
He does. The SPD has a VERY long and VERY consistent history of betraying the working class every election cycle. Thats why his continued support of them made me immediately suspicious.
he did a q&a video where he explained that he doesn’t really like the spd so much as he liked the image of defending liberal democracy against totalitarian threats
he’s a socdem
I immediately knew she was grifting when she said ‘I don’t think I need to read any more old white men, I’ve read insert list of completely unrelated liberal philosophy authors when I was studying for my PhD.’ This was really early on to.
No investigation, no right to speak.
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don’t misgender trans people, even if they’re shitlibs. she uses she/her.
Fixed it comrade, was unintentional
Old White men Leslie Feinberg, Mae Zedong, Rosa Luxemburg, Skollontai, Thomas Sankara, Che Guevara, Ho Chi Minh
Old White men, famously the people that whites have invented slurs for.
Contraptions is useless, Breadtube’s videos “explaining” Marx are less than useless.
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