I feel like an oversight or a missed opportunity regarding Astarion was that he couldn’t perform Vampire Bite on Cazador during the Ascension ritual fight. Like I understand that you can’t use it on undead but with the trouble that the game established with Astarion explaining how a vampire spawn can turn into a true vampire, you would think that biting Cazador would be an exception. I think it would’ve been a great and ironic twist for Astarion to be able to become his own master that way as well. But oh well, I’m guessing it would’ve lessen the impact of certain outcomes to Astarion’s questline.

    • CryptidBestiary@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      It was never stated in the game that the true vampire needs to give permission/consent, just that they usually would never give them the opportunity to drink their blood. In theory, a spawn could force their way if given the chance.

      • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        1 year ago

        Incorrect. The dialogue in game emphasizes the word, “allows,” and talks about how true vampires don’t want the competition.

      • Ulu-Mulu-no-die@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        It is, Astarion explains it pretty well, he says that a spawn is not able to bite the master unless the master allows it, and that basically never happens because the master would lose a slave in favor of a competitor.

        • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Unless of course something was wrong with the spawn, like maybe if it had a tadpole in its eye or something.

  • Shush@reddthat.comEnglish
    5·
    1 year ago

    Ohhh that’s true! Even as a cutscene at the end of the fight or something by choosing this as one of the dialog options.

    • CryptidBestiary@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      Right? Hell, it would be a great “consolation” reward for not getting a certain outcome, if you pick the right dialogue choices, or something.

      • Shush@reddthat.comEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        Wonder how it would affect Astarion to become a true vampire. Apart from becoming very powerful, he will probably be extremely power hungry. I don’t think he’ll continue feeding on animals after it.

        • CryptidBestiary@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Hmm it would be really interesting. Maybe the persuasion check (to a certain outcome) would be even more difficult to pass if he were to become one. And if he wants to remain in the party afterwards, you would be given the opportunity to keep him in check to still feed on animals or let him feed only on opponents, etc.