I’m so lost on how to tip anymore. I remember back when 12% pre-tax was considered a really good tip, but now the kiosks recommend 20-25% (which is usually ON TOP of tax).

I already don’t tip anywhere I’m not sitting down with service, but 20-25% is crazy when I’m just trying to get fed.

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    It’s ridiculous. Servers in Canada get the same minimum wage as anyone else. It’s not like the states where they only get $2/hour.

    So I’m supposed to tip $2 every time a bartender pours a pint? Like come on. Multiply that by 8 people in the bar and suddenly my bartender is making $40/hour to open and hand me beer while I make $20/hour to be responsible for the lives of children (I’m a school bus driver).

    I do believe bartenders deserve more than minimum wage, but when you look at it that way it seems our priorities as a society are super skewed and that’s why I don’t go to the bar.

    And before you tell me to get a better job, I already have two better jobs but I’m low on the list and don’t get enough work through them to quit the bus yet.

    • zephyreks@lemmy.caOP
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      Doesn’t the US force employers to pad the employee’s wage up to normal minimum wage if tips don’t cover it?

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          https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

          It varies by state, but goes like this:

          Many states that we care about (Washington, Oregon, California) require employers to pay state minimum wage before tips.

          In other states (New York, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, Hawaii), employers are required to pay at least the state minimum wage after tips and are required to provide a tip credit if tips don’t meet the state minimum wage threshold.

          In those states where minimum wage is equal to the federal minimum, employees are required to pay at least the federal minimum wage after tips.

          Nowhere is anyone legally required to be paid less than minimum wage for doing work.

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    i only tip 20% or more if it’s a delivery, and the weather is shit. if its a sit down restaurant 12-15% is fine.

    at fast food & coffee places I ask if they actually get the tips(they will usually say no, honestly) and then tip or not accordingly.

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    I don’t want to fiddle around through a machine menu, so if it has reasonable suggestions like 12% 15% and 18% I’ll usually choose one of those.

    If their automatic suggestions are at something like 20% 25% 30% I usually just press no tip instead of custom and entering in another value.

    I justify it by saying the next three people paying 25% are paying for my 15% tip, because obviously they can afford it more than I can.

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      That high tip suggestions piss me off and I’m more inclined to tip lower.

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    only at places with sit-down service or delivery drivers, 15%, 18% for unusually good service,

    but for delivery drivers on snow days? i will tip 50% or more. go forth into the breach with my blessing, pizza soldier

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    My rule of thumb:

    If there is no value added, no tip. If i buy beer, you are just checking me out, there is no value added. If i buy a coffee, and you just hand it to me at the counter, little to no tip.

    If there is a small value add, 10%: If you bring my coffee to my seat, or throw my pizza in the oven to reheat it.

    Service: 15% this is classic waitor territory. checking on me, refilling my water, carrying my food to my table, and cleaning up after i leave.

    Outstanding service: 20% - rare, but this includes when a waiter brought my table half a dozen loaves of bread and butter (when they usually serve 1 or 2), mentioned that we could request icecream refills, and checked on us frequently.

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    • 15% for a regular sit-down meal
    • 10% for lunch at a ‘quick casual’ place
    • A buck or two for delivery
    • Zero or pocket change for take-out
  • Cryst@lemmy.ca
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    Delivery I tip a couple dollars. Sit down meal I tip 12-18%. Fast food or counter service I hit not tip.

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    I do well enough to tip well enough. If I want to be a regular/priority i tip up to 25%, if i don’t care, they get the standard 15%. If I didnt have good service, 0%

  • CorruptBuddha@lemmy.ca
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    I’m pretty random about it. I give what I feel I can afford. That could be 0, that could be 25+%.

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    I tip my barber… I tip in a restaurant when the service is good (it usually is). I never tip anywhere else.

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    I’m stuck in the 12% mentally too for sit down. I recently stopped tipping for to-go orders at cafes. I stopped feeling bad about it too.

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    I’ll tip if I’m given any kind of service above and beyond “handing me stuff at the counter”. So if I walk up to a counter, order, pay, then receive order: no tip. Otherwise, 10-20% depending on service level.

    If they ask for more than 20% they’re capped at 15% and I’m going to judge them silently.

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      I’m pretty much this too. But I feel like I’m tipping 15% because I’m being guilted into feeling this is the lowest I should. 15% used to be a decent tip now it feels like I’m being judged for it.

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        If you’re being judged for it, that’s because the employees are being massively underpaid. I tend to not return to places with that atmosphere.

        If the wait staff is awesome and you have a great time, tip high to show your appreciation. Tipping because you feel pressured to or because you feel sorry for the employees is self-perpetuating. Everyone loses except the business owners.

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        It’s a standard I grew up with - if anything I wonder if I should be raising it for inflation.

        Much like servers, delivery drivers aren’t paid properly if they aren’t tipped. But, in my mind, the quantity of food matters a lot less to the delivery driver’s work, unless it’s a large enough order to require multiple trips from the vehicle.

        For the amount of time a driver has to work to drive to me and park and bring my order to the front door, yeah I think $5 is more than reasonable. They probably spend more time on me than a server in a restaurant does, in a lot of cases.

        • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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          These days most tips have to be handed in to the company and divvied up/taxed. So tipping the driver/server doesn’t help them as much unless they’re skimming.

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    When I eat in at a restaurant (excluding places with no waiters or service), 15% is my standard tip. I choose the percentage on the payment machine, so I assume it’s on top of the tax. When I order take-out, I don’t tip at all.

    I’m curious how much you guys tip (if at all) for things outside the restaurant industry. For example, taxis.

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      Good taxis get tips, mediocre taxis don’t. Luckily for my wallet, most taxi drivers suck.

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    Zero. I do not tip anywhere, regardless of good service which is their job to do, and for bad service I do not go back again.