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      To those of you feeling called out: Vibe coding is not about letting GPT find your missing semicolon or create that weird for-loop for you, but crafting the whole source code from scratch for a person who can’t program at all.

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        I’ve used it to craft a quick PowerShell or bash oneliner, or to get familiar with a function in some python package I’ve never used. But an entire program?

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          Well, executives like to oversell the ability of genAI, so people think it can fully replace human coders right now. In actuality, it’s just a more resource wasting Google. I usually try to look for code with public domain license instead to copy and modify (I try to credit the original authors nevertheless), and rarely peek into less permissive codes (had to do it for some OS API stuff, because people forgot how do do what SDL does without using SDL, my worst offense was to check the keyboard scancode lookup table in multiple Linux versions).

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        I used ChatGPT a few days ago to build a python script that takes a link in my clipboard and runs a yt-dlp command to download it to one of my Plex folders. Had to fettle a few details, but all told it took me about half an hour from start to finish.

        I have absolutely no idea how to write a python script, so I’m incredibly happy with the output.

        However, I’m not trying to use it to get paid, so I guess that’s OK.

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      It sounds likely it should be something cooler than being able to type a question to a computer. Like, if I was really good at Ask Jeeves, could I be a Vibe Bro too?

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      I don’t need to code a lot but the few times I asked AI for a simple code ( like vba or batch script) it messed up. How do you mess up VBA!? It took more time for me to correct than to just type.

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    we just picked up a new intern this month. they did ok in the interview but it was mostly that their dad works with us that they got a job this summer. this week while we were waiting for a meeting to start one of the other devs asked him about the tools he typicaly uses.

    he started talking about these vibe coding IDEs and i had to look them up. WTF! but now it is all making sense. who goes to a 4 year uni getting a cs degree and can’t navigate a terminal? this is going to be a long summer.

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        Confidence. Connections. Opportunities.

        Act like you know what you’re doing (you are likely more capable than you give yourself credit for). Be open to networking opportunities.

        Give yourself the opportunities to get a job by applying to places you might be at least a 50% match for, using a well-crafted resume. A lot of these job listings are written on a game of telephone. A lot gets mistranslated between the dev team, management, and HR. Let the interviewer and your own judgement decide if you’re a good fit or not after the interview, not that job listing.

        These folks are getting to the hiring managers just by sheer number of applications (or knowing the right people), knowing how to get past the filters, and presenting themselves as a great candidate. Do the same, and you might have better luck.

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        I was at a student project that just transitions to a being a normal job once you get your BSc, and there was one guy on our team who nobody knows how he got there, since there were objectively better students (in terms of grades and knowledge) who got rejected. He was beyond useless and always got other people to do his work for him.

        Anyways, the company I worked at offered internships for students, and the main criteria for getting accepted was your average grade. I was present to witness that guy going on a call with someone who determines who gets the internship to vouch for his friend. His friend had an average grade far under 8 (which is honestly embarassing at our uni), but this dude said how his friend is very motivated, wants to work, the grade problem is only there because those are some subjects he doesn’t care about, and he personally stands behind him that he’ll be a grear intern.

        Well it worked, that guy got the internship and other students who actually knew something got rejected because they didn’t have connections inside the company. I imagine that’s a story that gets repeated often. Higher mamagers don’t really know who’s doing what, so people who know how to confidently bullshit can talk themselves into and out of many situations and they often form connections with similar people.

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          Yeah. People often complain that connections get jobs, but a big problem is showing others that you can do the job. If someone has already vetted them, it makes the selection process easier.

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            I was able to advance academics twice through convincing convincing people that I was more than my bad grades.

            First was me convincing another highschool to accept me and let me skip a year after I almost failed my first year in high school.

            Second was applying for my current university, with decent grades, but needing scholarship.

            Both times I spoke with people in charge of making those decisions through online interviews and managed to convince them to take chances on me

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        Well, in the OP, it’s entirely nepotism.

        Fact is there’s a lot of dead end postings, as far as I can tell.

        Corpos post jobs so they can claim they’re trying to hire someone, with zero intention of actually interviewing or hiring anyone.

        It’s basically a warm blanket for the current overworked and underpaid developers so that they keep working, waiting for help and relief when none is coming.

        Then they have a pool of candidates when their current developers get sick of their shit and quit, so that they can fill that role immediately.

        Yayyyy

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      Correct, just replace parts until it works… or not, does not matter, customer pays either way.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    do any of these apps really exist or is it just some a shit gui in a wrapper? i ve seen so many memes about it now but never really saw any of the apps.

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          And why does that make white tube socks terrible. You’re really making me drag this out of you.

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            If you have to ask you’re probably a white tube sock wearer and, just simply won’t understand…

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              Wow people really suck at explaining things on this website. The amount of “You just wouldn’t get it” people pass out around here stinks of crappy explanation skills. Okay, you keep your secrets.

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                I also dont understand this one either. I asked Gemini and it was also lost.