• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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          1 year ago

          So you don’t have any idea why so many people on the spectrum commit suicide but you don’t think it’s the way they’re regularly mistreated?

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            1 year ago

            i think that the mistreatment of folks with autism is not enough to explain to have this high of a suicide rate, and that autism does just make life harder to deal with, regardless of discrimination

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              1 year ago

              And yet you have no other answers. So until you have them, that seems to be a good working theory.

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                1 year ago

                i think working off answers we do have is a better idea, actually

                such as suicide being one of the top three causes of death for autistic people. The other two being heart disease and epilepsy complications, and them on average dying under 50 years of age.

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                  1 year ago

                  I suggest to read more than one article about the double empathy problem at first.

                  We have multiple papers stating it’s the way we are mistreated the issue. Autists don’t have a lack of empathy, communication, socialization, non verbal language, etc. We express them in a different way, an Autistic way! This is as valid as the neurotypical way.

                  We need to stop internalizing ableism and self blaming us for everything and nothing. These are direct consequences of mistreatments too.

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                    1 year ago

                    im sure that mistreatment is part of the issue

                    im also sure that autism does, at least often, come with real internal stressors that are not the result of their treatment by others, and that make dealing with external stressors more difficult

                    i dont take an issue with the added context of conscious or subconscious ableism (though i think its besides the point here, because cruel or not, its still something potential children will still have to deal with)

                    i think its important to remember that even if that wasnt a factor, autism will often still impact the quality of life of potential children

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                  1 year ago

                  How is that an idea of what the cause of suicide is? Where is the explanation of cause there? Because I gave an explanation of the cause. So far, all you’ve done is play coy.

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                    1 year ago

                    you didnt give an explanation of the cause, you seemingly pulled something out your ass and didnt like when i didnt immediately accept it as fact