I was using Bing to create a list of countries to visit. Since I have been to the majority of the African nation on that list, I asked it to remove the african countries…

It simply replied that it can’t do that due to how unethical it is to descriminate against people and yada yada yada. I explained my resoning, it apologized, and came back with the same exact list.

I asked it to check the list as it didn’t remove the african countries, and the bot simply decided to end the conversation. No matter how many times I tried it would always experience a hiccup because of some ethical process in the bg messing up its answers.

It’s really frustrating, I dunno if you guys feel the same. I really feel the bots became waaaay too tip-toey

  • breadsmasher@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    You could potentially work around by stating specific places up front? As in

    “Create a travel list of countries from europe, north america, south america?”

    • Razgriz@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I asked for a list of countries that dont require a visa for my nationality, and listed all contients except for the one I reside in and Africa…

      It still listed african countries. This time it didn’t end the conversation, but every single time I asked it to fix the list as politely as possible, it would still have at least one country from Africa. Eventually it woukd end the conversation.

      I tried copy and pasting the list of countries in a new conversation, as to not have any context, and asked it to remove the african countries. No bueno.

      I re-did the exercise for european countries, it still had a couple of european countries on there. But when pointed out, it removed them and provided a perfect list.

      Shit’s confusing…

      • marmo7ade@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s not confusing at all. ChatGPT has been configured to operate within specific political bounds. Like the political discourse of the people who made it - the facts don’t matter.

        • TheKingBee@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          Or it’s been configured to operate within these bounds because it is far far better for them to have a screenshot of it refusing to be racist, even in a situation that’s clearly not, than it is for it to go even slightly racist.

          • Iceblade@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Yes, precisely. They’ve gone so overboard with trying to avoid potential issues that they’ve severely handicapped their AI in other ways.

            I had quite a fun time exploring exactly which things chatGPT has been forcefully biased on by entering a template prompt over and over, just switching out a single word for ethnicity/sex/religion/animal etc. and comparing the responses. This made it incredibly obvious when the AI was responding differently.

            It’s a lot of fun, except for the part where companies are now starting to use these AIs in practical applications.

            • HardlightCereal@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              So you said the agenda of these people putting in the racism filters is one where facts don’t matter. Are you asserting that antiracism is linked with misinformation?

              • Iceblade@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Kindly don’t claim that I said or asserted things that I didn’t. I would consider that to be rather rude.

                  • Iceblade@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    So you said the agenda of these people putting in the racism filters is one where facts don’t matter.

                    This quote from your previous comment is a statement, not a question, just like the one you now posted, false. You seem to have an unfortunate tendency to make claims that are incorrect. My condolences.

          • Hellsadvocate@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            1 year ago

            Probably moral guidelines that are left leaning. I’ve found that chatGPT 4 has very flexible morals whereas Claude+ does not. And Claude+ seems more likely to be a consumer facing AI compared to Bing which hardlines even the smallest nuance. While I disagree with OP I do think Bing is overly proactive in shutting down conversations and doesn’t understand nuance or context.

                • feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  1 year ago

                  I’m not sure. I’m not even sure what genuine social progress would look like anymore. I’m fairly certain it’s linked to material needs being met, rather than culture war bullshit (from either side of the aisle).

                  • HardlightCereal@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    0
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Social progress looks like a world where law enforcement applies the law equally to everyone, engages in restorative justice instead of punitive, where everyone complete freedom over their own body, mind, and relationships so long as it does not violate the rights of others, where immigration borders are a thing of the past, where disabilities are reasonably accommodated, where hate based on identity is gone, where slavery, human trafficking, and wage slavery are abolished, etc etc