• plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    Why? The battery is just a current, and while the gameboy is on, it’s supplying the current instead.

    What you’re suggesting is far more work and steps, and any transfer can corrupt.

    There’s no way this can go wrong unless you turn the power off or disconnect the cartridges pins from the mount. Which can happen while using the transfers as well….

    You don’t even need a computer, just the cart and a gameboy, and a screwdriver. It’s funny what people think is easier while including a dozen unnecessary extra steps that introduce issues at each step. And costs money.

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      5 months ago

      IIRC from various board schematics at a previous job, typically you have the battery connected into the relevant voltage supply with a diode. So when that Vcc line for your memory module or real time clock is powered externally, the battery just sits idle since there’s no voltage drop across the diode to get current flowing from the battery.

      It works well because it’s analog and fast and solid state. And yeah as long as you don’t bump other parts or break something, if you swapped the battery on a powered system it should be fine.

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      5 months ago

      How exactly are you going to get at the battery while the cartridge is inside the Game Boy, with the PCB facing inwards?

      If you claim this is doable, let alone easy, I’d like to see a video of it.

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        5 months ago

        What…?

        As I said customized, you take your gameboy apart if needed, but usually that’s not even needed.

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          5 months ago

          Don’t worry buddy. A coworker flipped out on me once for replacing a cmos battery while a machine was on. 🤷

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            5 months ago

            There’s a bit of difference doing it on a gameboy, and doing it in a running PC with spinning fans and such.

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              5 months ago

              If you know how to replace a CMOS battery, you know how to disable a fan. And even if you don’t, it’s not gonna bite your finger off 😂

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                5 months ago

                Fair point. I was more concerned about dropping it in, and then catapulting a small metal disc into some very expensive electronics.

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                  5 months ago

                  Lots of electronics instructions tell you to leave it on, so you don’t lose your data when removing the CMOS, no one reads documentation or want to educate themselves on how batteries and circuits work.

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                    5 months ago

                    IIRC this was scheduled maintenance in documentation for some MBs. Literally “every x years replace the battery while machine is running to avoid data loss” or some such. I could just be crazy though.

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        5 months ago

        Oh yes batteries are very scary and shouldn’t be touched. Sounds like you just don’t understand how batteries work and are afraid of doing something simple. So you’ve made it more complicated and costly, to avoid… idk even know what. Replacing a battery isn’t sketchy, it’s friggen hilarious you claim it is. This applies to ANYTHING with a battery fyi.

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          5 months ago

          Nobody is saying the battery itself is the dangerous part, though you beat up that strawman!

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            5 months ago

            I asked the person, and they couldn’t articulate what the issue was. They seem to think removing a live battery is dangerous, they never stated otherwise.

            Some people think you can’t replace a battery while the equipment is on, you can replace your car battery while it’s running. There’s literally no danger involved ever.

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              5 months ago

              People who fix machines for a living make sure they neutralize energy sources wherever possible just because. There’s no actual reason for turning off equipment before you work on it. You’ll never drop a wrench or touch something hot. Just yolo that shit, what could go wrong?

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                5 months ago

                You understand there are circumstances where you need to work live?

                Yes LOTO/try is needed when working on actual dangerous stuff, batteries, which aren’t having a current run through since the equipment isn’t on. Isn’t dangerous.

                You’ll never drop a wrench

                Leash.

                touch something hot.

                Put a blanket down.

                Just yolo that shit, what could go wrong?

                If you are taking something “apart” to fix it, I would assume the person has some knowledge and a modicum of critical thought and will figure out ways to deal with mundane issues.

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                  5 months ago

                  Nah you literally don’t understand why the rules are the rules and you’re a dangerous and shitty mechanic.

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                    5 months ago

                    You’ve never worked in some place in -50 eh? Shut the vehicle off to work on it, and it ain’t starting again. And guess what, they don’t shut off while refueling either.

                    Spicy and risky, yet commonly done when needed, and perfectly safe with a few precautions as I pointed out.

                    Tradesman know there’s situations where the rules are changed, if you think they are white and black, you’re not a mechanic and are just lying.

                    You know there’s suits that have to energize live lines right? Obviously it isn’t done when not needed, but it’s done often enough, there’s rules and ways to do it safe. Shocking eh?