“An autopsy was performed on November 6th and the Ventura County Medical Examiner’s Office determined the cause of death to be blunt force head injury and the manner of death homicide.”
Tragic.
Rabbi Michael Barclay of Temple Ner Simcha in Westlake Village, near Thousand Oaks, urged people to avoid jumping to conclusions about what happened.
He said police are being cautious before making accusations. “We need to do the same; and not let this become a spark that starts an inferno,” he wrote.
Before people use this incident to instigate hate, I will point out even in the thumbnail photo, people are assisting the man from both protest groups.
Before people use this incident to instigate hate, I will point out even in the thumbnail photo, people are assisting the man from both protest groups.
Because most people from both groups just want peace. They just don’t agree on the definition of peace. But both of them want the war to stop. If only they were in agreement on the details, they would get along.
So I would say that they were, in general, good people. And that’s why they helped him.
israel is actively advocating for and committing genocide to expand their lebensraum. Even in the west bank where the is no Hamas.
You cannot in good conscience say anyone supporting israel wants peace. That’s like saying people waving a Russian flag only want peace in Ukraine, but even worse since Russia only wants to annex Ukraine instead of replace it’s population with their own israeli Ubermensch.
If it was by a megaphone, that implies it was by a organizer which doesn’t look good. It’s already hard enough to not look anti-semitic while supporting Palestine without these events happening all around the world. (Plus synagogues getting threatened and so forth.)
We shouldn’t jump to conclusions
Immediately jumps to conclusions
Of course the 19 day old account is jumping to conclusions. That’s what it was created for in the first place.
This account is lot older than 19 days. I had to recreate it when my instance exploded recently =( Anyway, just musing. Hopefully the story is a lot different.
Haha I said “if”. It’s a comment section, there’s nothing else to do but comment.
Palestinians are semites too, how can supporting semites be anti-semitic?
because your defintion of the word is wrong. Here is the worldwide accepted definition of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism)[a] is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews.[2][3][4] This sentiment is a form of racism,[5][6] and a person who harbours it is called an antisemite.
and especially regarding your statement:
Though ‘antisemitism’ could be construed as prejudice against people who speak other Semitic languages, this is not how the term is commonly used.
The word is completely wrong, not his definition. Not all semites are Jews. The semites are a race of people that originate from the region of Palestine including Arabs. Arab is a Semitic language.
If anything the Palestinians look a lot more like Semites than the Zionists from Europe.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/semite
It’s like saying being anti-black would mean you hate Christians because some black people in Africa used to be Christian.
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Oh god, someone still knows these things. It’s a better day now.
Yes but when a dictionary does its job and is trustworthy then that is practically the same thing. And in this case it is very much right. Ask anyone what antisemitism means and they will mention Jewish people not people who speak semitic languages.
Ok? Dictionaries are descriptive not proscriptive. That doesn’t mean that YOUR proscriptive view of a word is the correct one.
Then they should use a different word, and stop hiding behind it to escape legitimate criticism.
this is a worldwide (!) accepted and established defintion of the word, but because you dont want to use it in it’s correct definition everybody else should change?
I don’t recognise whatever authority you say established this “worldwide accepted established definition”, your appeals to authority will lend you no legitimacy here, fuck off.
Smart people definitely post Mike Myers gifs when making a serious argument.
they do. evidence is above your post :) Let us be polite or just fucking ignore each other this time. I dont want to do this again.
That sounds like one of those “I can’t be racist against African Americans since all of us are from Africa originally” lines.
You know what is meant by the word and words are defined by usage not by origin.
“Succumbs to wounds” do you mean was murdered? Cause that is what that is.
Proof that it was the police
I think it is one of those things where they can’t call it a crime yet.
I feel like a bug is going around where everyone feels the need to rewrite headlines over the slightest thing.
Is it just an easy way to get upvotes?
Im calling out the euphemisation of the headline to make the murder sound less horrible.
I hope the president does something before the pogroms start.
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Don’t even have to imagine. Probably happened a few times in the time it took you type out your comment.
It’s kind of gross to respond to the murder of a Jewish man with “yeah but what about Israel’s genocide”.
You do know that we can condemn violence against Jewish people in our own country AND condemn Israel’s genocide, right?
That’s the best response to tragic events like this: compare suffering! /s
Magnitude and optics matter. This guy gets his own articles along with the german girl while the children being bombed in Gaza are just statistics.
Essentially, imagine if what happened to this guy was happened to dozens of children daily. Because it is.
This is a completely different situation though and different issue – it’s a Jewish man being murdered in the US at a pro Palestine rally. Where, it should be noted, everyone rushed to help him, including those rallying. That’s why he gets his own article.
We don’t need to play oppression Olympics. Most people are capable of being simultaneously horrified at what’s likely antisemitism and also Israel bombing a pediatric hospital.
It’s actually really important that we keep these things separate. A Jewish person dying is not the time to mention Israel’s genocide, because it can be seen as connecting the two together to minimize the murder. Antisemites would love to link the two together and pretend it creates a justification. Let’s not do their work for them.
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