Shared a meme about the whole situation in Fediverse Memes but apparently it stung a nerve somewhere (can’t imagine why), so, 'm sharing it here. Might make a post in another adequate meme channel later if I find one.

Do Feddit users come here and harass communities here with Zionism to an intolerable degree? If not, I am completely against defederation. It is wrong in principle and should only be considered as a last resort. And that is not the case here. Most Feddit users are just average people who probably don’t even know what Zionism means. But we’re excluding them all. This also applies to blocking “only” the communities. If you don’t like them, block or ignore them yourself. But don’t dictate that to me.

I want the Fediverse to be as open as possible. People like you are turning it into a walled garden. Isolated, small, and insignificant. Unfortunately, this seems to be an incurable tendency among left-wingers.

I never encountered Zionist trolls. Are they really that common? But I enjoy ich_iel so after a defet, I might use a different account more often.

Defed, definitely.

defed.

I’m for a defed.

My first comment on platform, supporting this ban

Usually i’m passive and value balance but seeing how all world is going past 6 months i’ve never been more ready to take hard stand and actually make any dent i can, this is far from enough

I don’t get it, what does banning communities on other instances achieve? Does that mean that we won’t see them?

Zionism is just a fucked way of thinking. Nothing gives you more right to a home than someone else.

Who needs Zionists messing up the joint? Not me. Defed 100%

My opinion is more or less that we shouldn’t cut ourselves off from big communities if their theme is not centered on endorsing crimes and if they’re not a community solely for whitewashing them / spreading disinfo.

I think a lot of German speaking users are people who have been exposed to only a narrow view of the world and that they can be valuable allies in the long run. Our instance has been relatively successful at bridging many gaps, I think it would be a shame to defederate entirely.

I’ve seen some questionable takes in places like YUROP but it’s no worse than a large enough .world thread or shjw thread.

My thoughts are unchanged since January. Strikes system for external users promoting imperialism (and the lebensrauming of me, I’m in Lebanon!) on our instance, a special text in German because of how prevalent this issue is among German people. And banning Zionists from signing up to the instance. I’m sure a fellow Arabic speaker could imagine a similar situation for antisemitism. It’s the socialism of fools after all. Surely concern trolling about women’s rights in Gaza is a sort of (subtly imperialist) feminism of fools?

I want the tent to be as big as possible. I want those who excuse these crimes to be exposed to as much common sense as possible. I don’t want them to feel like they have the mainstream opinion anymore.

Defed.

I’ve got a few thoughts on this.

First, its insane to me that someone could read the rules and decide anti-zionist is anti-semitic. That is either someone who doesn’t understand words and has no interest in learning them, or is someone actively zionist (and supports genocide, thus the issue with zionism).

Second, I’ve got my complaints about what I’m seeing from the flotilla/friendly instances.

• Someone saying “Fuck off you piece of trash” getting banned from a community is in no way a surprise.
• The same goes for “You’ll get the wall”
• Same for “kys”
• Same for calling someone a Nazi for what I assume is a supportive comment about the war in Ukraine. Just to note, don’t bother trying to respond to me with anything about Russia being in the right on this one. I’ll just block.

Third, there are quite a few comments there that are completely appropriate (support for Israel is support for genocide, etc), the thread about quokk.au is utterly nonsensical to me, as are the discussions in MoG (which shouldn’t really be a surprise).

To sum up my thoughts… At no point do I regret voting in support of rule 8. I am really disappointed by some of the comments I’m seeing being used as support for de-federating though, some of those are just disgusting.

Overall, I’m in support of dropping the comms due to the blatant zionist posts that go on there.

Edit: formatting fuckup, and a whole word.

Pro complete defederation. Same reason instances don’t federate with Nazi instances. Nazism and Zionism are both just different forms of fascism.