Consent scales, the one thing we all owe each other is basic human decency and a right to live our lives unimpeded as long as you’re not harming anyone. Filming/eavesdropping/invading boundaries and making people uncomfortable in a space let alone their own skin is grossly invasive
It absolutely is! But you know what it’s not? Violence. As soon as you start being hyperbolic you lose nearly all credibility because now I think “right this person is being dramatic”
I’m not saying jump to violence immediately. We can start with rehabilition like Nordic countries, something as extreme as exile or yes violence.
I try not to assume anyone’s country of origin/habitat but with America we’re seeing first hand when the only accountability is a slap on the wrist, a finger wag and shame on you fine.
Because by using hyperboly you’ve stretched the truth of that narrative you’re trying to convince people of. my head, that immediately makes you seem untrustworthy, and I’m likely to start writing off your concerns as dramatics. It’s all about credibility, at least with me and I assume with others as well, claiming violence for being filmed is like claiming assault because someone leered at you, it’s over the top and I will this treat it as ridiculous
Filming in public is not a form of violence in and of itself. Have you ever noticed that the public is called “public”, which is the opposite of “private”?
sharing that information with facebook is the violence. i don’t care if you take a photo and print it out to have it in a photo album. i care when i am in a big tech database, or even worse, an intelligence agency database. not that the two are very separate.
That’s a twisted view on the definition of violence… Anyhow, how would you distinguish between people filming for journalistic purposes, people filming and sending it to Meta, and people filming for other reasons? How would you decide who deserves your violence?
if i feel uncomfortable being filmed i will make myself heard, first nonviolently, then maybe with a bit of physical pressure. if I don’t even get to know when i am being filmed that’s intensely devious.
That word implys that he is talking about a moral prerogative and not a judicial matter…
Which of course means its unenforceable. You’re missing the point entirely if you think that even needs to be brought up.
Him:
“People Ought to // ought not to do this behaviour”
Your:
“Cant Force them hahahaha pwned 😎"
Maybe just take a second to think about the implications of what you’re reading instead of embarrassing yourself like this going autocomplete mode and writing irrelevant ass comments
Seems pretty enforcable to me. Hell, they were even able to compel the U.S. Olympic committee to pay out hundreds of millions when their lead team doctor sexually harassed so many athletes that he’ll be in prison for the rest of his life.
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I agreed with you up to this statement, no Karen, getting filmed in public is not violence, even if it’s concealed, Jesus Christ
Consent scales, the one thing we all owe each other is basic human decency and a right to live our lives unimpeded as long as you’re not harming anyone. Filming/eavesdropping/invading boundaries and making people uncomfortable in a space let alone their own skin is grossly invasive
It absolutely is! But you know what it’s not? Violence. As soon as you start being hyperbolic you lose nearly all credibility because now I think “right this person is being dramatic”
How can someone be dramatic about consent?
I’m not saying jump to violence immediately. We can start with rehabilition like Nordic countries, something as extreme as exile or yes violence.
I try not to assume anyone’s country of origin/habitat but with America we’re seeing first hand when the only accountability is a slap on the wrist, a finger wag and shame on you fine.
Because by using hyperboly you’ve stretched the truth of that narrative you’re trying to convince people of. my head, that immediately makes you seem untrustworthy, and I’m likely to start writing off your concerns as dramatics. It’s all about credibility, at least with me and I assume with others as well, claiming violence for being filmed is like claiming assault because someone leered at you, it’s over the top and I will this treat it as ridiculous
Filming in public is not a form of violence in and of itself. Have you ever noticed that the public is called “public”, which is the opposite of “private”?
sharing that information with facebook is the violence. i don’t care if you take a photo and print it out to have it in a photo album. i care when i am in a big tech database, or even worse, an intelligence agency database. not that the two are very separate.
That’s a twisted view on the definition of violence… Anyhow, how would you distinguish between people filming for journalistic purposes, people filming and sending it to Meta, and people filming for other reasons? How would you decide who deserves your violence?
if i feel uncomfortable being filmed i will make myself heard, first nonviolently, then maybe with a bit of physical pressure. if I don’t even get to know when i am being filmed that’s intensely devious.
You can’t force people to act on you’re subjective feeling of being uncomfortable. Can’t.
We can by making it illegal. I mean, what other purpose do laws serve?
people shouldn’t make others uncomfortable.
That’s unenforceable.
Yes…………
Notice the ‘should’ in there?
That word implys that he is talking about a moral prerogative and not a judicial matter…
Which of course means its unenforceable. You’re missing the point entirely if you think that even needs to be brought up.
Him: “People Ought to // ought not to do this behaviour”
Your: “Cant Force them hahahaha pwned 😎"
Maybe just take a second to think about the implications of what you’re reading instead of embarrassing yourself like this going autocomplete mode and writing irrelevant ass comments
Seems pretty enforcable to me. Hell, they were even able to compel the U.S. Olympic committee to pay out hundreds of millions when their lead team doctor sexually harassed so many athletes that he’ll be in prison for the rest of his life.
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