• tofubl@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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    1 month ago

    So they take absolutely everybody they can get nowadays. What would be an explanation for the previous divide? I never pictured the military to be a job that you could apply and be turned down…

    • jqubed@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6·
      1 month ago

      I’ve heard the physical fitness tests can be pretty tough. I also had a cousin with a college degree who applied. It seems a college degree typically means you come in as an officer, but they wanted to bring her in as an enlisted soldier instead. I think they don’t need as many officers, but I’m guessing not everybody with a degree wants to go in without a commissioned rank.

    • darkdemize@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      1 month ago

      You might be surprised then. Each branch has slightly different standards, but you can be rejected for being out of shape, your medical history, your criminal history, being unable to score high enough on the aptitude tests, or even something like excessive tattoos.

      • tofubl@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Shows what a bloody civilian knows.

        How do you interpret the graph? Or does it just mean “the military can’t afford to have hiring standards anymore?” And does that result in worse soldiers or more loose cannons (i.e., problematic personality profiles), or I suppose that’s probably the same thing?

        • darkdemize@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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          1 month ago

          My interpretation of the graph is that the services have shrunk since the cold war era ended, which is true.

          I would imagine that the number of applicants trending downward is likely due to a combination of a stable civilian employment market and a decrease in the recruiting budget. Notice there are spikes in application numbers that correlate with economic downturns, but don’t have an equivalent increase in recruitment.

          As for why the lines converge towards the end, my guess would be that although there are fewer applicants, the services still have annual recruiting quotas to maintain force end strength. This will result in a higher percentage of applicants that have waivers for the factors I mentioned in my previous comment.

          As for the quality of recruits, I think as a population they are decreasing in quality, but this is no different than trying to apply the BMI standard to an individual to assess their health. You will still have individuals in the population that perform highly, although they are likely a shrinking proportion of those making the cut. Also, there are always a number of people that join and discover the military isn’t for them / what they expected. Some will finish their contract and get out, others will find a way out early. The latter group are the ones that tend to have disciplinary problems and/or are constantly at medical seeking a reason for early discharge.

          • tofubl@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
            1·
            1 month ago

            Interesting take, especially the observation of economic stability vs. military applicants. Thanks for writing it.