• TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    yeah and how do you measure how much they have exactly?

    do you ask them what they do if they find a tortoise lying on its back in the hot dessert?

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      6 days ago

      You want me to give you some objective “measure” like “inches” about most people’s critical thinking skills? If you really want a thorough analysis I’m sure you could delve into the social sciences, philosophy, humanities … history, sociology, psychology, anthropology etc., but that may not please you if you want it purely quantified.

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        5 days ago

        so basically they have to have a liberal arts degree? that’s your measure of what critical thinking is? everyone has to do four years of coursework in the humanities?

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          5 days ago

          No, that’s not what I said. I said in order to answer your question to me, you’d have to delve in to these disciplines. Although sure, for people to get better at critical thinking, of course it would help to actually… learn to think and have intellectual pursuits.

          And it’s nothing to do with a degree. It’s the deep study time and focused effort that counts.

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            4 days ago

            ok, and how are you going to force people to do that? how are you going to make sure they learn it? and how would you judge they have attain these skills?

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              4 days ago

              I’m not going to force people to do that, the point is not to force it and you can’t “force it” anyways

              I’m not going to make sure they learn it, you can’t “make sure”

              I can only judge from my own / our own analysis. You can make up a quantitative metric “critical thinking score” but you would only be fooling yourself.

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                4 days ago

                right, so it’s entirely subjective, and your version of ‘critical thinking’ is probably not critical at all, from my perspective.

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                  4 days ago

                  is probably not critical at all, from my perspective.

                  So you are just gonna say that what i said is “probably” not a critical thought? That doesn’t sound like a very critical thought, itself!

                  You made a statement that critical thinking doesn’t mean anything, but more likely you just are unfamiliar with it.