Consider that Meta’s Marketplace is the largest competitor. Immediately after they launched, they quickly capitalized on their Identity Verification natural monopoly on online social networking. This was ‘pivoted’ into “Identity Verification Assurance” for your average Playstore and iPhone users.
Marketplace wasn’t even easier to use than Craigslist, 99% of the arguments for using it were “it’s safer because it’s less scams”.
I wouldn’t put it beneath Zuck and his bootlickers to pay a few bitcoins to maintain an artifically inflated number of scams on Craigslist.
It reinforces the mistaken belief that scams are driven by anonymity (instead of the truth that you can have all their data and the justice department will look the other way… that’s why they keep doing it until they scam Grant Hudson of McLean, VA).
Anyway, the faster CL dies the sooner Meta consolidates a monopoly on electronic flea marketing or whatever it’s called.
I’ve never had a Facebook account, and decided never to have one after FarmVille and the rest of the social networking game trend made Zynga and a handful of other companies very very rich at by making people very addicted.
Zuckerberg is a merciless evil bastard even as billionaires go.
There is still ebay and XMRBazaar
Ebay is similarly unethical as FB. https://apnews.com/article/ebay-settlement-d0886f1036e198f77669707db9fe1f2b
That’s only one example of the shit they’ve pulled. For several years now, they pretty much give buyers free rein to scam sellers.
XMRBazaar? Could you point me in the right direction of more info on this? I’m wholly intrigued.
You’re lucky. In my country, it’s only marketplace
IDK about eBay, but anybody from anywhere is allowed to use XMRBazaar.
Sure, but nobody does here :(
The scammers don’t need corporate money, they are everywhere, including on facebook. All dating websites are overrun with pig butcherers run from slave compounds in South Asia, all the way to your local romance scammer.
FB is overrun with other scammers primarily though, truth scammers, influence operations, but that’s another story. They are the worst of them truly though.
We should want to keep CL. I quit FB, but have the account on hold just so I can use marketplace if need be.
We should want to keep CL. I quit FB, but have the account on hold just so I can use marketplace if need be.
I hadn’t touched Facebook in yeeeears until the band I joined insisted I need to share the posts for gigs and shit and immediately I started getting all kinds of weird messages and friend requests. Fuck Facebook.
I never stopped buying things on Craigslist. When I still had a Facebook account I used marketplace too, but I’ve always used Craigslist as a resource as well. I purchased 3 pieces of furniture and some eurorack modules in the last 4 months all on Craigslist.
So while I wouldn’t say it is alive and well because it definitely isn’t what it was in its heyday, people still use Craigslist. 3 of the 4 sellers I talked to said they sold on Craigslist because they hate Facebook, the 4th just didn’t really seem interested in conversing with me and just wanted to sell the table.
I’ve found FB to be Harder to use than CL, because they don’t give a shit where or what category you’re looking for, whereas on CL, those are the two primary filters. Because they matter the most.
If I’m looking for end tables in florida, I really don’t give a fuck about cars in hawaii. FB does not understand this.
Never thought about scams being paid for, but that makes perfect sense. Or just bots of their own to post them and not even really follow through. I wish more people still used CL, it’s so much fucking better
I used Craigslist for years to buy furniture, bikes, lawn equipment, tools, etc. until I was catfished 3 times in a row when trying to buy something.
I gave up on it and opened a Facebook account for the first time just to get access to Marketplace. I’ve never had that problem since.
Sorry, but Craigslist’s inability to manage its users killed Craigslist.
Craigslist is a pita.
A guy was offloading a box of woodworking magazines. Read: full woodworking plans, multiple per mag. $10. Great.
The contact info is an email. Ridiculous, but ok, I’ll try it.
I use the junk proton mail and the guy responds like he’s on Facebook: yes it’s still available, when would you like to pick it up? Not what I asked, I gave 3 different t days I could be there in the afternoon already and never asked if it was available. He could’ve just said that works or doesn’t. More email. Fantastic.
I repeat what I said and add two more days a week later if he’s keen on waiting. He says tomorrow afternoon would be great, and names a time. But not a place. Great. More email.
I’m not going to futz with email on a tiny phone screen. I ask where while I’m at my PC. I get nothing. Next day rolls around. I try again. Nothing. The time comes and goes. Late evening I check on a lark. I get an oh sorry and he gives the address in an email time stamped hours after agreed upon pickup time.
This is Craigslist. It needs a texting platform to deal with people like this.
I’ve had similar email loops that go nowhere regarding chickens and then an armoire. Woodworking guy was that last. All trapped in email hell.
Craigslist is only under attack from itself. It needs a fast, easy way to text between users or it’s going to remain in the mud. It has the name recognition, and yet.
I read this whole thing and I get that you have some kind of negative emotional association with email, but beyond that I cannot for the life of me see how email is the problem here.
Yeah. I would expect email to be the form of communication provided. Or a phone number, but who wants to give those out these days?
Personally, I’d give out a proxy address.
I hate email as well but I don’t blame Craigslist for that, just humanity in general LOL. They have their own chat app now if that’s something you really need.
Fair. I work with people such that email plays a very small role. But I never engage with it on a tiny phone screen, only when I’m sitting down with a PC or work computer.
But you do use some kind of proprietary, surveilled walled garden to communicate on your phone? you ever think of just changing your font size? or just getting rid of your phone?
Get the same shit on Facebook. Worse, even. Get yourself a mobile client.
Conversely, most of my encounters of CL were short and to the point and resolved one way or the other in usually an hour. If the people you’re dealing with are familiar with how it works, it’s two emails, one each way, and maybe a clarification/announcement text.
It’s like, where/when? Maybe another question. Here/time, text number, answer or not.
If it’s more drawn out than that, they’re usually a fucking idiot and it’s not worth pursuing, as they’ll have already sold it to some guy that walked past the sign in the yard by the time they remember how to send an email
I haven’t used CL in years but you brought back all the PTSD I had when using that platform.
FB Marketplace isn’t much better but at least you don’t have to deal with the whole slew of different communication platforms.
What’s killer is CL has what’s needed to usurp marketplace, if it would only get serious about integrating a messaging app.
