• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          How long has the Special Olympics been in charge of what words are appropriate, anyway?

          Why humor them? Believe me, the word itself will outlive the Special Olympics.

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            FTA:

            "The R-Word Is a Form of Bullying

            Kantar reviewed nearly 50 million social posts in the U.S. over 2 years. Over two-thirds of posts about people with intellectual disabilities were negative and nearly 29 million contained slurs (i.e., using the word “retard(ed)” or other words combined with “-tard”).

            Spreading the R-word continues to hurt people with intellectual disabilities—and whether intended or not, is a form of bullying. Using the R-word is the same as using any slur against a minority group. Eliminating this word is a step toward respect for all. "

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              2 days ago

              You realize that undermines your reasoning, right? We should be bullying Kash Patel at every opportunity.

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                There are plenty of words that can be used to insult someone, if your intention is to bully them. You don’t need to inflict collateral damage to insult one person. The English language is very flexible. Giving up a simple word is an act of respect.

                You and everyone else downvoting in this thread are using the same logic as an alt-right dweeb who gets enraged when you “steal” bigoted language from them, or ask them not to misgender someone. Which is dumb, because you’re stealing nothing. It’s saying “Hey, that word is terrible for me hear, it brings back lots of bad memories, so out of respect could please not use it?”

                Damn, people want to appear to be against oppression, racism and other things yet can’t even be bothered to modify their behavior in the simplest of ways to respect other living beings. We really are all fucked.

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                Patel is worthy of bullying, but not in a way that causes collateral damage. Same as if people were using racial slurs. Those would get removed too.

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            3 days ago

            You think linking to one particular source that tries to explain the problem means they’re in charge?

            Well, I guess Lemmy bows to that organization considering it’s in the Lemmy TOS: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

            You don’t have to like the rules, but you certainly have to follow them.

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        NGL, my own autistic brother would call (and has called) Patel a retread.

        As an insult it is less about denigrating actual handicapped folks and more about calling the subject of the insult a specific level of stupid. One that is very often less capable that most people who are disabled.

        God knows my own brother who is on the spectrum could outperfom Patel, simply because he’s an honest, capable man with integrity.

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          So? Is ableism by someone on the spectrum supposed to be acceptable? Do I need to find a person who is black to give me permission to use the N word? Maybe I should find a woman to give me permission to be misogynist?

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            That’s not it at all. It’s about not being so high handed to assume someone with disabilities needs you to define what they will - or will not be - offended by. I as a woman give you permission to be the biggest misogynist on the planet if it gives you a chubby, knock yourself out! Then again, I can be a total raging cunt and don’t give a shit if you are.

            You are not and will never be responsible for my emotions.

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              Perhaps you misunderstand, so let’s go back to the basics.

              Lemmy.World TOS prohibits the use of, among other things, ableist slurs.

              If you use such slurs, expect to face consequences.

              I am a Lemmy admin, and part of what I do is enforce the TOS when I see violations.

              We may choose to simply remove rule-breaking comments, or hand out temp-bans or perma-bans to those that can’t seem to follow the rules.

              If you cannot follow the rules, I suppose you will eventually find out the consequences for yourself.

              So ultimately, I don’t care if you agree with the TOS or not. Only whether you follow them.

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                When the TOS, as stated, seems ambiguous… it begets the immediate issue between you and I as being that as I have NOT used a slur… as an admin, you find my plainly stated diffidence to “white knighting” (…as if those with disabilities have no agency…) for others offensive.

                And that’s okay by me.